Posted: 3/25/2013 12:33:11 PM EDT
| I know this has been answered before, but I can't find it, or recall it. Is the Sig 1911 parts the same specs as other 1911's? I've got about 1,200 to spend on a better 1911, and someone told me Sig was GTG. I'm torn, local shop has two tone Smith and Wesson E-series scandium, commander, bob tail, 1,290. I'm aroused to say the least. I welcome your opinions, and knowledge. Thanks. |
| I'm more than happy with my Sig. I can see how the lighter frame would be appealing to some, especially for daily CCW, but I liked the heft of the stainless frame better. Plus, on the S&W counter sample I looked at, there seemed to be a little hitch in the slide travel (like there was a sticky spot about half-way through its travel) and there was a distinct 'click' as the barrel mated with the slide. The slide on the Sig traveled much smoother, and the barrel locked up seamlessly. The Smith is a heckuva nice looking pistol, though, and plenty of people swear by them. |
Two Sig 1911 tac ops, here.  I am not a 1911 expert, but hey... Heres my experience with Sig.
Great value, great build quality, no shallow rollmarks or massive WARNINGS, and four 8 round mags (unless your dealer is a thief) with each gun. I have had zero issues with one tac ops, and a couple FTF issues with the threaded barrel version that I believe were operator/mag related. I personally haven't jammed either of them with about 400-500 rounds downrange sofar. The only handguns I like better is my P7 HKs, and thats only on days evenly divisible by 2. |
| The sigs are a great gun and great value. Parts are most the same (except the extractor). Big difference is the slide is a little different than traditional 1911s. Some standard 1911 holsters will not fit te sig 1911s. For some nice custom kydex check out zero concealment systems. They make a nice variety of holsters |
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The sigs are a great gun and great value. Parts are most the same (except the extractor). Big difference is the slide is a little different than traditional 1911s. Some standard 1911 holsters will not fit te sig 1911s. For some nice custom kydex check out zero concealment systems. They make a nice variety of holsters sig makes traditional slide 1911's too |
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Sig was my second 1911, I'm super impressed. It's way more accurate than I am currently, and as stated before the only part that is not standard 1911 is the extractor, and the slide is milled differently (externally) than standard on all models except the traditional line. The fit and finish are exceptional, this gun is TIGHT. I've shot Taurus, Kimbers, Springfield G.I. and Range Officers, and Remington R1 and R1E models, and to me my Sig blows them all out of the water. Range pic from this morning: http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz185/joe_hyder/064A4EA6-4652-433D-9D84-B9DAE8A55346-10397-000007B8A9CF06A7_zps13f7e214.jpg |
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I've got a Tactical Operations model.
Slides different, external extractor, otherwise the parts are the same. Shoots very well and I like the gun. Part of me though wishes I'd have just got a Colt Rail gun. At the same time though, I like that it's a bit different. |
| I don't like the Sig external extractor. Also the slide design can be an issue with some holsters. And it's not a 70 series style 1911, it's an 80 series which I don't care for. I'd rather buy a Dan Wesson Valor or Springfield TRP personally, but that's just me. |
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Both designs work, but every other pistol in the world has long since switched to the external extractor because it works off spring tension rather than as a 'torsion bar' in the 1911 that has to be precisely tweaked for each individual pistol. Neither the spring or the extractor usually need to be adjusted in an external extractor pistol and replacements are rare. Plus, the external extractor functions as a Loaded Chamber Indicator by sight or feel, which can be a welcome reassurance at times.
BTW, the 'Scorpion' line now includes all sizes and some lightweight frames - some frames are also 'traditional' without an accessory rail. I'm pretty sure a Scorpion will be in my cabinet sometime this year depending on how the band business picks up. :) |
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The sigs are a great gun and great value. Parts are most the same (except the extractor). Big difference is the slide is a little different than traditional 1911s. Some standard 1911 holsters will not fit te sig 1911s. For some nice custom kydex check out zero concealment systems. They make a nice variety of holsters Blackhawk serpas DO work with the scorpion |
| I have a new 1911 XO stainless with Crimson Trace grips - it's a great piece and I use it for my carry piece. My wife's daily carry is a P239 and that too is a great firearm. I also have a P226 Tactical and that piece is just plain fun. My son carries a 1911 C3 and loves it. |
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The sigs are a great gun and great value. Parts are most the same (except the extractor). Big difference is the slide is a little different than traditional 1911s. Some standard 1911 holsters will not fit te sig 1911s. For some nice custom kydex check out zero concealment systems. They make a nice variety of holsters Blackhawk serpas DO work with the scorpion +1 |
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My SIG 1911 Compact RCS is a great carry piece. Goes through ammo it like shit through a goose. Zero problems plus I like the external extractor. Got a Mitch Rosen holster for a Commander and just kept working it until the RCS fit like I wanted it to. Plus the holster still works fine with my Colt Commander. I'm real happy with it and don't see a need to change out parts like I have on other 1911's. |
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Below is a post of mine from another forum about a month ago (not a cross posting looking for any help) that might persuade you the Sig 1911 is GTG. It's a bit dramatic, but I'm just expressing my experience with a new gun review while going through a rough time in my life. ( 3 close family members passed away in the last 6 months, also lost my job)
I'm not sure about all the parts, but I know the slide profile and extractor are different. No matter, my Sig is GTG for me, so if you choose the Sig, I hope yours is good for you. Good luck what ever you choose. ========================= Not sure how to start this, and it'll probably be boring until you see the pics so feel free to skip the beginning and go to the pics. The gun worked great and it made my day.... After suffering several 'extremely' life changing events and personal family tradgedies in the last 6-7 months or so, I have been (my family as well for that matter) somewhat disconnected from many things in life I've enjoyed, including of course guns, talking about, working on, buying and selling, and of course shooting. I've poked my head around from time to time here and there on some forums, but haven't felt good about much of anything, even gun related. So trying to get my life back on some track, I really wanted a new gun. Having been out of a job while taking care of a sick relative and my family, left me cash poor for any hobbies, I still had a couple guns I could live without. So after a bit of soul searching, I decided I wanted a 'nice' 1911. That could mean a lot of different brands and models to many of us. Yeah, I have that 7" longslide zombie custom, a Norinco, but I just wanted a new out of the box stainless 1911 with a few extras that I could just leave alone and it would work well and be accurate. I went to a few LGS and chain stores, and finally decided I liked the looks of the Sig 1911 SS model. Then I actually picked one up. I dunno why, but even after handling many 1911's in the past, including ones way out of my price range, this Sig 1911 felt somehow different. maybe the checkering, grips, slide weight distibution, or maybe I just wanted it. In any case, that was what I actually wanted. I haven't wanted anything for a long time. At least not anything material. So, I did the bad thing an sold 2 guns I don't shoot often and went and bought the Sig SS 1911. After doing some research on them, I read all the negatives on FTF, FTE, tight chambers, etc., Then realizing some NIB guns from Ruger, Kahr, and a couple others I'd purchased in the past several years had true factory functional defects, and I had to send back to the factory made me second guess my latest purchase. That said, in all cases the factories and guns in question worked out fine, and in some cases better, but I just didn't want to deal with that at all. But now I have it, and would have to find out. Yesterday morning, one day after purchasing it I hear on the news were getting hit with a snow storm later in the night. I got a bug up my butt to clean that new Sig 1911 and just run quick to the range (close to my house) and test it, and that's when it hit me. I haven't actually went to shoot for months, my nerves and personal anxiety are at an all time high (still dealing with family tragedies) and for the first time in my life, I like froze, and didn't want to go. I know that sounds stupid, but I was worried the gun would malf, I have the shakes I never had in the past, and it's like 20 degrees outside, near zero windchill, with some sleet bead blasting in the wind. Well, at this point I'm feeling like a wuss (again for the first time I can remember) but I tell myself to load up some mags and just go. I have to break out of the chains I'm feeling, and now was as good a time as any. Besides, I should have the short range (10 yards) to myself hopefully, as the weather for shooting for fun, wasn't all that fun. I just wanted to know if the gun was going to barf out early or show some promise. Also just test myself as well. So off I went. **So here is the "mini extreme test" of both me and my new Sig 1911.** The gun: 1.) Totally new out of the box, field stripped and basic clean and lube with one caveat. I like to use Amsoil syn grease cut with CLP. Have done this for longer than I can remember. That said, grease and cold weather are not 'usually' compatible. Just wondering on a new tight gun... 2.) Two Sig factory mags, and two like new Chip McCormick Power mags. 8 rounds of Magtech 230 FMJ in one of each different mags, and 8 rounds of Rem UMC 230 JHP in each of the other two mags, for a total of 32 rounds. (see pic) Not a lot, but new guns, mixed ammo and mags usually shows any probs right up front. The range: Nearby gunclub, outdoors, 10 yards off hand standing and sand bag rest on wooden shooting tables. Cold, cloudy, windy, sleet, and ice under feet.. Now that's safe.. Me: Friggen cold (especially hands on the metal pistol), stupid bifocal glasses fogging, and transition lenses darkened from UV even though cloudy. Shoulder sore, nose running and stomach ache with slight butterfies. Oh yeah, not so steady handed as in the past. Great shape for a shooting review/test.. lol The Result: I'm not sure which mags I shot in which order, other than knowing I shot the FMJ first and the JHPs last. In any case it didn't matter because the gun worked flawlessly no matter which mag and ammo I fed it. The first shots of FMJ I shot in the direction of target with the sights, but was actually trying to look at the gun (slightly side of it) and also looking for where the empty cases were ejecting. With cold hands, body, and unsteady nerves, I was satisfied with standing off hand hitting the target in 4" plus groups with the first two mags. After my slight comfort with no malfs at this point, (why I expected one was like paranoia) I decided to sit my butt down on a frozen plastic chair with ice on it, and use the sand bags left by the last shooter there on the table. What happened next shocked the hell out of me. With foggy, darkened transition, bifocals, (which I hate if you didn't notice) cold, sniffly, etc., I just went back to shooting basics and locked my front sight (or what seemed to be the blurred view) just under the black circle on the paper plate and started slowly squeezing the trigger. WOW, I couldn't believe under those (mine and the weather) conditions I could shoot that good. (well, I know it was the gun anyway, not so much me) I knew I had the one flyer, and know I was a little over excited on the second to last round. After that I had a slight shot used splat target also set up and ripped the last mag into it as fast as I could pull the trigger and point at the target, Again about 4-5" group and the mag locked open for the last time. I set the gun down, went up to the paper plate an snapped a pic before taking it down, and went back and snapped one last pic of the pistol unlocked sitting on the sand bags. I was satisfied even with the low ammo count fired. Brand new gun, mixed ammo and mags, grease and cold weather. Not to mention a shooter who felt very uncomfortable in more ways than I can express. There it is. My new Sig 1911 SS is everything I had hoped (and worried about) for and more. Seems to be a really nice gun compared to some things/problems I read about, but still took the chance. I know things can go wrong later, break in and all that, but this felt 'that way' you feel when you've shot a couple hundred guns (not all mine.. I wish) over 35 years and experienced issues out of the gate. It inspired confidence when I was planning for none. We now have about 9-10" of snow that fell last night into today, so I won't be shooting it soon, but I can't wait to shoot it again, and this time I plan to be feeling a little better all around. I just hope this experience with the new gun is a sign things may improve in my life. (fingers crossed) *Here's some pics, (crummy lit day and all) cause I know anyone who read all the above is not going to be happy if there's no pics at the end... Just before leaving for the range. 
The range. 
The rest speak for themselves. 
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