Posted: 10/30/2012 7:00:10 PM EDT
| So I have a loaded Springfield 1911 and it has a 2 peice guide rod. It always gets lose and I have to tighten it while shooting. kind lame. I was wondering if I get a standard GI rod will it work in this gun? Will the spring bind or make it less reliable? |
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You will need the GI guide rod and the plug. Reliability will not suffer and may well improve. The spring is supported on the outside. It doesn't need internal support too. then why would they make a 2 part one if the old way is better? its kind reinventing the wheel.... |
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You will need the GI guide rod and the plug. Reliability will not suffer and may well improve. The spring is supported on the outside. It doesn't need internal support too. then why would they make a 2 part one if the old way is better? its kind reinventing the wheel.... because there are people out there who think it is better, so it sells pistols I only use a GI rod/ system |
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Quoted: Quoted: You will need the GI guide rod and the plug. Reliability will not suffer and may well improve. The spring is supported on the outside. It doesn't need internal support too. then why would they make a 2 part one if the old way is better? its kind reinventing the wheel.... The 2-piece FLGR is an abortion .... Either stay with a one-piece FLGR or the GI setup.
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"Better" is a relative word.
Full length guide rods were introduced and took off in popularity. Some felt that the added weight to the muzzle end helped tame recoil. Springfield responded to the market demand. There are purists out there who will insist if it's not the way JMB designed it, then it's junk.  Meh.
But if I was having an issue with a two piece FL guide rod, I'd replace it with the GI plug and combo in a heartbeat. In fact, I have a Loaded model and did just that. Not because I was having issues with the two piece getting loose, but for ease of takedown. Plus I can't tell the difference in recoil AT all. Good luck. |
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Buying a one-piece rod like the BUL part will allow you to re-use the hollow spring plug you already have. It is short enough to rotate the bushing over it, and already has a link clearance bevel on the rear of the guide rod head.
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-guide-rods/1911-auto-recoil-spring-guide-rod-prod41556.aspx Or you could also install a GI spring and plug. |
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Quoted: I would like a gi one... I like the way they look, lol Here's a Wilson Combat Recoil Spring Guide: or Ed Brown: Blued recoil spring plug (Ed Brown): or Stainless (Ed Brown): |
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In the late '70s early "80s gunsmiths and companies like Pachmayer, Jim Hoag and Bill Wilson introduced the full length guide rod. On early compensated guns the guide rod stuck out the front of the gun and supported the weight of the compensated barrel during the firing cycle and improved the reliability of these guns. The full length guide rod has the distinction of being the only truly drop in part on a 1911. Guys like Bill Wilson picked up on this and sang the praises of the part and consequently sold thousands of them for about 30$ each. On a standard combat type gun the part is completely unnecessary.
A one piece rod will solve your problem. If you are not feeling like spending much money then get a roll of plumbers teflon tape and wrap a lot of it on the threads of your two piece rod. Crank the pieces together and they should stay together while shooting and remain easy to disassemble for cleaning. |
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"Better" is a relative word. Full length guide rods were introduced and took off in popularity. Some felt that the added weight to the muzzle end helped tame recoil. Springfield responded to the market demand. There are purists out there who will insist if it's not the way JMB designed it, then it's junk. Meh.
But if I was having an issue with a two piece FL guide rod, I'd replace it with the GI plug and combo in a heartbeat. In fact, I have a Loaded model and did just that. Not because I was having issues with the two piece getting loose, but for ease of takedown. Plus I can't tell the difference in recoil AT all. Good luck. |
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If you are not feeling like spending much money then get a roll of plumbers teflon tape and wrap a lot of it on the threads of your two piece rod. Crank the pieces together and they should stay together while shooting and remain easy to disassemble for cleaning.
Great idea! I can't wait to try it! The two piece FLGR on my Springer often comes loose after dozens of rounds at the range, but has never caused a FTF or any other malfunction, has never come completely loose. I suppose having one (or not) is a matter of personal preference...most of my 1911's have one, at least one does not, all of them are 100% reliable. And accurate. At this point I'd only consider changing if I had reliability or accuracy issues...adding one or going back to JMB's original configuration is a relatively inexpensive proposition either way. Cheers! |
| Wow so the parts came in already. Props to MidwayUSA!!! they had it scheduled to come monday but came early. The stainless steel parts look great and fit great. The 18 lbs spring is noticably harder to pull the slide back with. Cant wait to take her out and see how she runs! thanks for the advice guys. |
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You will need the GI guide rod and the plug. Reliability will not suffer and may well improve. The spring is supported on the outside. It doesn't need internal support too. Yup, one of these: and one of these: This. |