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10/3/2011 8:33:36 PM EDT
Along time ago in a desert far far away, one of the marine force recon guys i worked with said that s&w made some of the best 1911's.  Now that I have the money to drop on one I was wondering if this still rings true.  I was looking at the 1911pd and 1911tfp models (leaning more to the tpd for the rail as I use them often, I have this thing about rather having my light on my weapon than in my hand)
10/4/2011 6:29:14 AM EDT
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Along time ago in a desert far far away, one of the marine force recon guys i worked with said that s&w made some of the best 1911's.  Now that I have the money to drop on one I was wondering if this still rings true.  I was looking at the 1911pd and 1911tfp models (leaning more to the tpd for the rail as I use them often, I have this thing about rather having my light on my weapon than in my hand)


Okay.........?  Not sure what you're looking for in replies.





They're good stuff; people rag S&W for their external extractors, but it's a design they've been using for decades on their other semi-autos, they've got it down.  Very solid value for the money.



 
10/4/2011 8:16:20 AM EDT
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Just peoples experiences with the guns.

I dont have enough experience on the whole internal vs external extractor debate to really have a stance from what i understand it is as controversial as piston ar's.
10/4/2011 10:28:49 AM EDT
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My experience with a new Smith and Wesson,  E Series 1911 TA rail gun.

In the end, I'm satisfied with the pistol; but it only runs the way I need it to with CMC Power Mags, and it took several months after my original purchase to get my issues resolved.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/111263_UPDATE___My_defective_SandW_E_Series_1911_____HAS_BEEN_REPLACED_by_SandW.html
10/4/2011 3:14:45 PM EDT
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I heart my 1911 PD edition railed it rides nightstand duty with a TLR2 in an Atomic Dog holster. 2000rnds through it with ZERO issues.
10/4/2011 3:21:28 PM EDT
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I have owned 3 or 4 commander models all scandium. Better than any others I have owned except an STI which was there equal.

10/4/2011 6:35:19 PM EDT
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I got a good deal on a 1911PD, already a good deal for a 1911. Have about 1000 rds through it, no issues. I'm liking it a lot.
It was my first venture into the 1911 world, so I don't really know better, but from my experience with it I know I now like 1911s in addition to Glocks.
10/10/2011 10:16:28 AM EDT
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I have a Gunsite.

The Gunsite runs like a top even through my introduction to the reloading scene, which speaks highly of the gun.

Only advice would be to order an aftermarket trigger (C&S is my preference). S&W doesn't seem to value tight fitting triggers for whatever reason. Takes 15 mins to swap the trigger and my C&S didnt require any fitting whatsoever.

As far as accuracy, my roommate won the most recent range outting bet by beating me on the 50 yrd. line with his 5" stainless S&W.

Best customer service in the business coupled with a lifetime warranty is what originally sold me on the potentially nightmarish 1911 design.
10/10/2011 10:40:55 AM EDT
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I have the fairly plain 108282 model, front serrations, fixed sights, stainless finish...  The only problems I've had with it were related to the crappy S&W mags that came with it.  I replaced them with chip mccormick shooting star mags and haven't had a hiccup since.  Otherwise it has been a reliable pistol well worth the money.












One complaint is that with mild holster use the finish wore rather quickly in the usual holster wear spots.  I don't really care as my guns aren't safe queens, but something to note if you want a safe queen.







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10/10/2011 10:47:29 AM EDT
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I'd have a hard time buying a Smith now that Sig offers a traditional slide.
10/10/2011 11:19:48 AM EDT
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I'd have a hard time buying a Smith now that Sig offers a traditional slide.




Owning both, I think its safe to say that SIG is making the better 1911 right now. My S&W Gunsite (Scandium Commander) broke a magazine catch lock, which rendered the pistol unusable right in the middle of a magazine. Only a few hundred rounds later, the plunger tube legs sheared completely off. The gun still functioned, as the plunger tube was held in by the grips, but this does not inspire confidence.



I am gutting the pistol and replacing all the crappy MIM parts with barstock parts. I just can't trust S&W to fix the gun with parts that will last. If they let this POS out the door, there's no telling what you'll receive as a "fix." I'll probably leave the MIM grip safety and MSH in the gun, but we'll see if they don't fall apart on me too. By the time I'm done fixing this pistol I'll have spent enough to have bought a Colt Lightweight XSE instead, and I would have had had plenty of money left over to de-MIM it.  



To be completely honest, I've begun to question the credibility of people who would recommend these S&Ws over the other options available in the marketplace.
10/10/2011 1:53:46 PM EDT
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I had one of the first 2000 guns that they put together. It had excellent fit/finish and it ran like a champ. My brother liked shooting it so much I ended up selling it to him. That being said I went with SAI as a replacement simply do to the external extractor, which I didn't like the look of.
10/10/2011 2:39:16 PM EDT
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I love mine, flawless so far, but only about 600 rounds through it. Mine has the rail, wish I had the standard frame. Holsters are hard to find.
10/11/2011 7:14:59 AM EDT
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Wife has 2 of the scandium commanders. Loves them. They run jsut as well as our Kimbers but not quite as well as my Doublestar. In their defense they were about half the money of the Doublestar.