Posted: 2/3/2011 12:28:16 PM EDT
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OK I've had several 1911's and never heard of doing this. I understand this is common for USPSA competition. How is this done and what will it cost to undo it?
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OK I've had several 1911's and never heard of doing this. I understand this is common for USPSA competition. How is this done and what will it cost to undo it? Depends how fancy you want to be. Some electric tape can do the trick for a couple cents, or you could pin it, or you could look at "The Answer" Just depends how reversible you want it to be. EDIT: Damn...beat by seconds! |
OK I deserve the answers.
Here let me clarify I looking at buying a 1911 that has the grip safety de-activated by a gunsmith. I'm asking if this is just a grip safety replacement or is something else done. I know you can't be 100%sure without looking. Is this common in these competitions? |
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OK I deserve the answers.
Here let me clarify I looking at buying a 1911 that has the grip safety de-activated by a gunsmith. I'm asking if this is just a grip safety replacement or is something else done. I know you can't be 100%sure without looking. Is this common in these competitions? Yes, it's fairly common. There are several ways to deactivate it, some of which are reversible. Most commonly, the grip safety arm is filed down to provide a clearance for the trigger bow, in which case you'd need a new grip safety. Sometimes there will be pins inserted in the top of the MSH or bottom of the grip safety that keeps the grip safety held "in". If the grip safety can pivot normally, most likely the GS arm has been filed. |
My preferred method, only because the current GS isn't "speedbumped"
Edit-just saw you said a gunsmith did it. He probably just cut off the entire horn, you need a new gripsafety. If you're lucky it won't need fitting 'round the beavertail but you'll have to fit the horn and notches. |
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As above, there are a number of methods.
One of the neater and reversible methods was to have a hole drilled through the frame and grip safety and insert a pin. This requires some careful drilling, it leaves a hole in both parts, and you can't disassemble the frame without pushing the pin out. Another is to weld metal onto the bottom of the grip safety, or top of the main spring housing and file the weld until when assembled the safety is held in. A more "elegant" and far simpler method that is not only easily reversible, it doesn't alter the gun in any way, and you can still easily disassemble the gun is to use a "drop in" pin. To do this, simply get a piece of drill rod or a drill shank and cut a section as wide as the inside of the rear of the frame. When assembling the main spring housing, simply drop this piece of rod on top of the housing and push in the grip safety as the housing is seated. The short section of rod holds the grip safety depressed. All that's needed is to select a piece of rod that's thick enough to hold the grip safety fully depressed. |
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As above, there are a number of methods. One of the neater and reversible methods was to have a hole drilled through the frame and grip safety and insert a pin. This requires some careful drilling, it leaves a hole in both parts, and you can't disassemble the frame without pushing the pin out. Another is to weld metal onto the bottom of the grip safety, or top of the main spring housing and file the weld until when assembled the safety is held in. A more "elegant" and far simpler method that is not only easily reversible, it doesn't alter the gun in any way, and you can still easily disassemble the gun is to use a "drop in" pin. To do this, simply get a piece of drill rod or a drill shank and cut a section as wide as the inside of the rear of the frame. When assembling the main spring housing, simply drop this piece of rod on top of the housing and push in the grip safety as the housing is seated. The short section of rod holds the grip safety depressed. All that's needed is to select a piece of rod that's thick enough to hold the grip safety fully depressed. I like this. But for me, I just modify my GS activation point by carefully filing the tang. I get them set to the point where thay are just barely touched and they release. No need to reverse anything |
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I understand this is common for USPSA competition. I have to ask: What is the purpose of disabling the grip safety? The problem for some shooters when using the thumb over safety grip is that this sometimes causes the grip safety to not get depressed all the way. Hence the trigger gets locked when you don't want it to. |