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10/3/2010 7:52:10 PM EDT
So, I want to replace the full-length guide rod setup on my 5" Kimber (over there <–––––––––––– ) with a GI-style setup.  Which one should I go with, and what weight spring?  I don't shoot +P loads, my frame's aluminum, and there's about 4 or 5 different weights and such.  Help!



ETA:  Would I be able to use the SAME recoil spring?

10/3/2010 8:29:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Get this here: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1357/Product/RECOIL_PLUG___GUIDE_for_1911_AUTO (The first 2 parts)

Yes you can use the same recoil spring.

I usually run a 18-18.5# spring and have never had a problem with any of my 1911s using standard or +P ball/HP ammo.
10/3/2010 8:54:15 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


Get this here: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1357/Product/RECOIL_PLUG___GUIDE_for_1911_AUTO (The first 2 parts)



Yes you can use the same recoil spring.



I usually run a 18-18.5# spring and have never had a problem with any of my 1911s using standard or +P ball/HP ammo.







 
10/3/2010 10:58:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Get this here: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1357/Product/RECOIL_PLUG___GUIDE_for_1911_AUTO (The first 2 parts)

Yes you can use the same recoil spring.

I usually run a 18-18.5# spring and have never had a problem with any of my 1911s using standard or +P ball/HP ammo.


When I made the swith from full length guide rods to GI rods i used all Ed Brown parts in both guns except for my stainless Springer. I went with this. It was a little more and I had to file it down some to make it fit. But, once I got it in there it looks great!

Wilson Combat
10/4/2010 5:17:26 AM EDT
[#4]
Let me ask what might seem like a dumb question to some.
Why would you want to change from the full length rod?
While I've had 1911's most of my adult life, I've never had the need to customize or replace anything as they functioned ok as is, except for a Colt Gold Cup I once had that would jam alot if the chamber got the slightest bit dirty.

Bout the only thing I've ever swapped out are grip panels. As I sit here now though, I have a few that I would like to work on, like going to flat spring housings, front strap checkering, beavertails, rear sight replacement etc.
Just curious on the guide rod types,why do some swear by full length and some don't?
10/4/2010 5:33:54 AM EDT
[#5]
Can't speak for everyone, but the biggest reason for me is the ability to rack the slide with one hand by pushing the pistol off of a table, duty holster, steering wheel...etc (using a GI rod setup).

It's also easier to disassemble the pistol without the use of "tools".  I would rather have a single piece rod over the two piece SA uses, but I am a GI setup kind of Guy.
10/4/2010 8:26:27 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


Can't speak for everyone, but the biggest reason for me is the ability to rack the slide with one hand by pushing the pistol off of a table, duty holster, steering wheel...etc (using a GI rod setup).



It's also easier to disassemble the pistol without the use of "tools".  I would rather have a single piece rod over the two piece SA uses, but I am a GI setup kind of Guy.


To answer the earlier question, both of these reasons, but primarily the second one.  I really just kinda hate dealing with the relatively sharpish edge of the Kimber guide thingy while disassembling it, and it's just kinda more of a pain in the neck than anything.



Do I NEED a GI setup for any particular reason?  No.  I just think it's the better system to have on my guns, for the two listed reasons above.



 
10/4/2010 10:43:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Let me ask what might seem like a dumb question to some.
Why would you want to change from the full length rod?
While I've had 1911's most of my adult life, I've never had the need to customize or replace anything as they functioned ok as is, except for a Colt Gold Cup I once had that would jam alot if the chamber got the slightest bit dirty.

Bout the only thing I've ever swapped out are grip panels. As I sit here now though, I have a few that I would like to work on, like going to flat spring housings, front strap checkering, beavertails, rear sight replacement etc.
Just curious on the guide rod types,why do some swear by full length and some don't?


Because they serve no useful purpose (except perhaps for additonal weight on a competition gun), and have a number of drawbacks.
10/4/2010 3:17:04 PM EDT
[#8]

Archived thread ...

10/4/2010 3:19:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Oh and the only reason I switched was because the guys here on Arfcoms 1911 board said to. So I did.
10/4/2010 7:50:48 PM EDT
[#10]





Ooooooooh......thankee kindly!



 
10/4/2010 8:17:54 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I really just kinda hate dealing with the relatively sharpish edge of the Kimber guide thingy while disassembling it
 


Use the magazine floorplate or bottom to depress the recoil spring plug with minimal finger trauma.  The old Colt-style rounded floorplate tabs were particularly handy for use as a field expedient bushing wrench as well.  They fit nicely in the cutout of the bushing.
10/5/2010 7:40:28 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I really just kinda hate dealing with the relatively sharpish edge of the Kimber guide thingy while disassembling it

 




Use the magazine floorplate or bottom to depress the recoil spring plug with minimal finger trauma.  The old Colt-style rounded floorplate tabs were particularly handy for use as a field expedient bushing wrench as well.  They fit nicely in the cutout of the bushing.


While I do this already, it is an annoyance that I'd rather not have to futz with.