Posted: 4/7/2009 7:20:42 AM EDT
| i heard the hi cap 45 warthog had feed issues is this true or false ? |
| I can only comment on the one I have. A nitehog, I bought new last summer. It has had feeding problems from day one. I have four factory mags have used all types of ammo and after 700 rounds still can not get though a day at the range without multible FTF's. Adding insult to injury the covert black finnish on the gun wears off so fast, it looks like it has had 7000 rounds though it not 700. On the bright side, dont think it ever had an ejection failure. It is the only gun I have ever regrated buying. Its really a shame, I love 1911's own many and plan to own many more. Para has a great assortment of 1911's and many more I would have considerd buying, but after my nitehog I dont think I can give them any more of my money. |
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thaks alot guys i dont want to step on toes here but i dont put much faith in para ord anyway In their defense, the bigger pistols do not have these problems. I have a P13 that has NEVER had a problem, no matter what ammo or mag combo I use. My Warthog was a little problematic, but I switched the slide out for a 3.5" P12 slide and all the problems went away. ANY 3" 1911 is going to be a bit touchy because the timing is so critical with such a short slide. Unfortunately, unlike other gun companies, Para Ordnance seems to think that once you buy something, it becomes your problem, and God forbid if you should try to get them to own up to their mistakes. If you're looking for a 3" 1911, buy it from a company that stands behind their products... and that is NOT Para Ordnance. |
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I think it's attributed to any 3" .45 ACP because of the short cycling of the slide. .45 ACP is the longest mainstream semi-auto pistol caliber so it makes sense to me that you would have feeding or extraction issues with a 3" .45 ACP. My S&W CS45 is pretty picky as well. I went to qualify with it to renew my NV CFP last October and it had failure issues. I had to use the range's ammo to qualify, not mine since they went lead free. I do not have issues with using UMC or USA (Winchester Whitebox) with it at the range with that pistol. My S&W 4516-1 and P-12.45 did not have issues with the same range ammo, both longer barrels.
Find the right ammo and recoil spring combination that will work in your 3" .45 ACP and that should in theory resolve the issue. My several year old P-12.45 has been a tack driver. It cycles just about everything. A former roommate has a P-14 built from a frame kit he's had for over 15 years now and a P-12.45 and both of them are quite reliable. The only issue he's ever had was with IMI-Sampson jacketed SWC rounds. The bullet was shorter than ball and hardball, so it had feeding issues with that particular round. |
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My buddy has been struggling with one he bought a couple months ago.
On a couple of our trips to the range together he was getting FTF problems about every other round. Also, the first round out of the magazine would usually only feed partially and would require slightly pulling back on the slide and re-releasing to get the gun into battery. He contacted Para and they did offer to take a look at it, but only at his expense. They didn't seem very willing to make good on their product. (This is coming from him, of course. I never spoke to them directly.) Instead, he completely stripped the gun down, cleaned and lubed every part excessively and then used a polishing compound on the feed ramp. The gun does seem to function relatively well now. As long as he feeds it good ammo it will run with no problems. Cheap ammo or bronze cased ammo still misfeeds. It also requires an extremely thorough cleaning after each use. As other people mentioned, the finish already makes this gun look like it's been carried for about 10 years. On the plus side the gun is quite accurate and the recoil is much less than what I would have suspected. He really wants to use this as his CCH, but honestly I just don't think I'd trust it. Which is sad, because it really looks like it would be a great carry gun. |
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My brother picked up a Warthog about a month ago and we sent it back to Para today due to issues. The gun failed to feed and to fully return to battery numerous times. It also would fail to lock the slide back after the last round. We narrowed it down to the slide stop backing out of the frame about 1/16 of an inch and it would rub on the bottom of the slide rail and cause a drag on the slide. Because of that the slide did not have full power during feeding and would jam within the last 1/2" of the slide traveling forward.
The slide stop grooved the bottom of the slide rail pretty badly and also messed up the frame where the slide stop passes through. The slide stop also notched out the magazine follower. The dealer he bought it from is requesting for them to replace the slide stop and slide. He's also going to check to see if they can do something with the frame. When it did run, it was a neat little gun. A bit too wide for my hands but a neat little gun. |
I got a chance to fire my Warthog for the first time this weekend, and all I can say is,  . I ran about 100 rounds through it through two different mags, WWB 230g, Winchestedr Silver Tip 185 HP's and some unknown 185g flat nose FMJ...all without a hitch. What a blast, and surprisingly accurate for a 3".
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I got a chance to fire my Warthog for the first time this weekend, and all I can say is, . I ran about 100 rounds through it through two different mags, WWB 230g, Winchestedr Silver Tip 185 HP's and some unknown 185g flat nose FMJ...all without a hitch. What a blast, and surprisingly accurate for a 3".ONE thing Paras have managed to get right is accuracy. What I found with my 3.5" Para was that it worked rather well clean, say 60-90 rounds fairly reliably. After that it would start crapping out consistently. I would try widening the sessions to 250 rounds minimum for the next 1,000-1,500 rounds and remember to stay religious with the recoil spring changes. |