Posted: 4/18/2010 7:02:45 PM EDT
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Hey guys,
I have a question for you concerning the Beretta Model 92. Is this a good gun to give to a person who has never owned/fired a handgun? My brother has a birthday coming up in June and he is getting married in July so I decided I'd merge both into one great gift. He has always said he would like a Beretta Model 92. I'm not sure why, it wouldn't be my first choice for a handgun, but i've know him for a while now (26 years) and i've never heard him express interest toward any other handgun. His only intention for this gun would be a range toy. What do you think? i'd like to hear your thoughts! If you need more information i'd be happy to give it. Bludfan |
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Yes on all counts.
Easy and comfortable to shoot, easy to see and understand mechanism and controls, accurate and reliable, and easy to find inexpensive parts and magazines. And it is damn sexy, which is probably its only real advantage over other fine firearms, SIg, CZ, etc. Check in in the hometown forum when you get the chance. |
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Yes on all counts. Easy and comfortable to shoot, easy to see and understand mechanism and controls, accurate and reliable, and easy to find inexpensive parts and magazines. And it is damn sexy, which is probably its only real advantage over other fine firearms, SIg, CZ, etc. Check in in the hometown forum when you get the chance. Gah! forgot 
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Beretta 92 is a fine handgun. They shoot good. A bit on the heavy side, but if it's just a range toy that's not a problem.
He should probably fondle one before deciding. I like the way the grip feels in my hand but the trigger reach is too long for me to be comfortable with it. |
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Yes on all counts. Easy and comfortable to shoot, easy to see and understand mechanism and controls, accurate and reliable, and easy to find inexpensive parts and magazines. And it is damn sexy, which is probably its only real advantage over other fine firearms, SIg, CZ, etc. Check in in the hometown forum when you get the chance. Well, they are cheaper than SIGs, which is an advantage. |
| One of the greatest pistols out there, a classic, and our nation's sidearm at that. Smooth and accurate shooting, one of the best stock DA/SA triggers when broken in (and outfitted with 'D' mainspring). Slide-mounted safety might take a little more training to overcome as far as manipulation goes. Mags are cheap, but stick with factory mags (Beretta or MDS) and Mec-gar mags for best results. |
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Quoted: Good realiable, accurate handgun. I shoot out to 100m accurately and did some 300m shooting with it also (still working on correct holdover). Was working toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge with this one in the photo before I retired. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG CD I don't mean any disrespect Combat_Diver, but are you serious? Do you mean 100m/300m, as in meters, or more like 100ft/300ft- feet??? I can't see how you'd be able to fire any 9mm handgun accurately out to 300m WITHOUT a magnifier/scope on it, and even if you did have one, you might have to aim it so high that any optics won't help anyway. And all that said, how in the world are you able to trace that bullet path if you don't have someone else spotting for you? Please enlighten me. If 100m/300meters is true as you say, I must be missing something here with my handgun, Beretta FS, 9mm, or whatever. 100m - OK, I can almost believe that, but 300meters... 
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Good realiable, accurate handgun. I shoot out to 100m accurately and did some 300m shooting with it also (still working on correct holdover). Was working toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge with this one in the photo before I retired. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG CD I don't mean any disrespect Combat_Diver, but are you serious? Do you mean 100m/300m, as in meters, or more like 100ft/300ft- feet??? I can't see how you'd be able to fire any 9mm handgun accurately out to 300m WITHOUT a magnifier/scope on it, and even if you did have one, you might have to aim it so high that any optics won't help anyway. And all that said, how in the world are you able to trace that bullet path if you don't have someone else spotting for you? Please enlighten me. If 100m/300meters is true as you say, I must be missing something here with my handgun, Beretta FS, 9mm, or whatever. 100m - OK, I can almost believe that, but 300meters... Yes, Shooting was conducted on our range in Balad, Iraq. I was the Range NCOIC and ran 7 scheduled ranges per week. We had a 75m x 75m flat range area and a 485yd (also marked off in meters) as a Known Distance range (max distance we could get out). Shot the M9, iron sights, two handed from a isosceles standing position. I shot the long range every week as I was putting together two teams for the All Army Matches in 06'. Takes practice, but I had the time, ammo and ranges to do that. I also handgun hunt with Smith N frames. Targets were Larue Iron maidens (fall down when hit and automatically resets) and I never said that I was totally accurate at 300m (100m yes) as it takes some hold over and a very steady sight picture and trigger squeeze. Shooting was one of the things I got paid to do and I shot everything I could get my hands on from crossbows to 120mm. CD |
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Good realiable, accurate handgun. I shoot out to 100m accurately and did some 300m shooting with it also (still working on correct holdover). Was working toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge with this one in the photo before I retired. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG CD I don't mean any disrespect Combat_Diver, but are you serious? Do you mean 100m/300m, as in meters, or more like 100ft/300ft- feet??? I can't see how you'd be able to fire any 9mm handgun accurately out to 300m WITHOUT a magnifier/scope on it, and even if you did have one, you might have to aim it so high that any optics won't help anyway. And all that said, how in the world are you able to trace that bullet path if you don't have someone else spotting for you? Please enlighten me. If 100m/300meters is true as you say, I must be missing something here with my handgun, Beretta FS, 9mm, or whatever. 100m - OK, I can almost believe that, but 300meters... Look up pistol silhouette shooting. People have been shooting handguns at those typse of ranges for VERY many years. I've seen my dad shoot a stock M27 S&W .357 at 300yds. I've shot the USGI M1911A1 at 100 yds and once you figure out the sighting, you can hit a 2 liter bottle fairly easily. I've seen a novice shoot a 2" J-frame S&W at a standard silhoutte at 100yds and hit it three times out of five. She simply didn't know it couldn't be done. People think they can't shoot a pistol long range because they just haven't tried it. Most pistol ranges aren't longer than 50 yds, and many places simply won't allow pistols at longer ranges for various reasons, so most people simply don't do it. Try it out, you'll be suprised at just how accurate you will be at long range. |
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Good realiable, accurate handgun. I shoot out to 100m accurately and did some 300m shooting with it also (still working on correct holdover). Was working toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge with this one in the photo before I retired. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG CD I don't mean any disrespect Combat_Diver, but are you serious? Do you mean 100m/300m, as in meters, or more like 100ft/300ft- feet??? I can't see how you'd be able to fire any 9mm handgun accurately out to 300m WITHOUT a magnifier/scope on it, and even if you did have one, you might have to aim it so high that any optics won't help anyway. And all that said, how in the world are you able to trace that bullet path if you don't have someone else spotting for you? Please enlighten me. If 100m/300meters is true as you say, I must be missing something here with my handgun, Beretta FS, 9mm, or whatever. 100m - OK, I can almost believe that, but 300meters... Look up pistol silhouette shooting. People have been shooting handguns at those typse of ranges for VERY many years. I've seen my dad shoot a stock M27 S&W .357 at 300yds. I've shot the USGI M1911A1 at 100 yds and once you figure out the sighting, you can hit a 2 liter bottle fairly easily. I've seen a novice shoot a 2" J-frame S&W at a standard silhoutte at 100yds and hit it three times out of five. She simply didn't know it couldn't be done. People think they can't shoot a pistol long range because they just haven't tried it. Most pistol ranges aren't longer than 50 yds, and many places simply won't allow pistols at longer ranges for various reasons, so most people simply don't do it. Try it out, you'll be suprised at just how accurate you will be at long range. I have hit a car-sized boulder at 300 yards with a G20. Hitting a human sized target at 100m is not that hard if you know how high to aim, keep a steady hand, and have good trigger control. it would be easier with a beretta in SA mode than with a glock. I believe him.. |
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Good realiable, accurate handgun. I shoot out to 100m accurately and did some 300m shooting with it also (still working on correct holdover). Was working toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge with this one in the photo before I retired. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG CD I don't mean any disrespect Combat_Diver, but are you serious? Do you mean 100m/300m, as in meters, or more like 100ft/300ft- feet??? I can't see how you'd be able to fire any 9mm handgun accurately out to 300m WITHOUT a magnifier/scope on it, and even if you did have one, you might have to aim it so high that any optics won't help anyway. And all that said, how in the world are you able to trace that bullet path if you don't have someone else spotting for you? Please enlighten me. If 100m/300meters is true as you say, I must be missing something here with my handgun, Beretta FS, 9mm, or whatever. 100m - OK, I can almost believe that, but 300meters... Yes, Shooting was conducted on our range in Balad, Iraq. I was the Range NCOIC and ran 7 scheduled ranges per week. We had a 75m x 75m flat range area and a 485yd (also marked off in meters) as a Known Distance range (max distance we could get out). Shot the M9, iron sights, two handed from a isosceles standing position. I shot the long range every week as I was putting together two teams for the All Army Matches in 06'. Takes practice, but I had the time, ammo and ranges to do that. I also handgun hunt with Smith N frames. Targets were Larue Iron maidens (fall down when hit and automatically resets) and I never said that I was totally accurate at 300m (100m yes) as it takes some hold over and a very steady sight picture and trigger squeeze. Shooting was one of the things I got paid to do and I shot everything I could get my hands on from crossbows to 120mm. CD Sir, you are my hero. I could only wish to be that good with a pistol. I'm actually kind of a bummed. I am not capable of shooting a pistol with both eyes open. I'll never be able to seriously compete in IDPA because of this. |
A perfect first gun, almost. Some would suggest a wheel gun as a 1st gun & some suggest a .22 & some suggest a .22 wheelgun. 
But the 92 is simple to operate, field strip, clean & to shoot. It's a 9mm so ammo is affordable. Loads of cheap mags out there & the 92 is wonderfully reliable. My .o2 |
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I would agree. I love my 92. It is a great first pistol to learn on. Safe, simple, long sight radius, recoil is very manageable, parts are readily available if needed, relatively low maintenance. I think it would be a great first pistol.
Actually, now that I think of it, I think my dad's 92 was the first non-22lr pistol I ever shot. And look how I turned out!! 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good realiable, accurate handgun. I shoot out to 100m accurately and did some 300m shooting with it also (still working on correct holdover). Was working toward my Distinguished Pistol Badge with this one in the photo before I retired. http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/9809Combat_Diver-114.JPG CD I don't mean any disrespect Combat_Diver, but are you serious? Do you mean 100m/300m, as in meters, or more like 100ft/300ft- feet??? I can't see how you'd be able to fire any 9mm handgun accurately out to 300m WITHOUT a magnifier/scope on it, and even if you did have one, you might have to aim it so high that any optics won't help anyway. And all that said, how in the world are you able to trace that bullet path if you don't have someone else spotting for you? Please enlighten me. If 100m/300meters is true as you say, I must be missing something here with my handgun, Beretta FS, 9mm, or whatever. 100m - OK, I can almost believe that, but 300meters... Yes, Shooting was conducted on our range in Balad, Iraq. I was the Range NCOIC and ran 7 scheduled ranges per week. We had a 75m x 75m flat range area and a 485yd (also marked off in meters) as a Known Distance range (max distance we could get out). Shot the M9, iron sights, two handed from a isosceles standing position. I shot the long range every week as I was putting together two teams for the All Army Matches in 06'. Takes practice, but I had the time, ammo and ranges to do that. I also handgun hunt with Smith N frames. Targets were Larue Iron maidens (fall down when hit and automatically resets) and I never said that I was totally accurate at 300m (100m yes) as it takes some hold over and a very steady sight picture and trigger squeeze. Shooting was one of the things I got paid to do and I shot everything I could get my hands on from crossbows to 120mm. CD THANKS COMBAT_DIVER! Rest assured, you have completely changed the thinking of one handgunner here! I never thought to think outside the box on this. Trully, I don't kow how to thank you, but thank you! This is gun enlightenment at its best. I'm going to study the techniques ASAP. And fortunately, where I am in TX, I go to a range that I know won't care if I shoot a handgun on the rifle ranges. |
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I am not sure where this notion that the 92 has a huge grip comes from. It is maybe slightly larger than my G17's grip at circumference right below trigger guard, but I can't notice a big difference. It is thicker, but not as deep. It does not CC as well as the g17 because of the weight and thickness. The grip is better than that of my G17. I alsp preferred the grip over the XDm's which felt too skinny.
I am selling my recently acquired G21 because the grip is too large for me to shoot it comfortably. |
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I am not sure where this notion that the 92 has a huge grip comes from. It is maybe slightly larger than my G17's grip at circumference right below trigger guard, but I can't notice a big difference. It is thicker, but not as deep. It does not CC as well as the g17 because of the weight and thickness. The grip is better than that of my G17. I alsp preferred the grip over the XDm's which felt too skinny. I am selling my recently acquired G21 because the grip is too large for me to shoot it comfortably. For me, a huge part of it is how far forward you have to go to get to the trigger, the DA pull is LOOONNNGGGG. Not as long as some, but longer than a glock. I also have the .mil lasergrips on mine, which add to the thickness a little more. |
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Unless he has small hands, the 92 is a great handgun. Get some Mec-gar 18 round mags... they are the tits. This Yea the gun is a pretty good handgun. On the big sized but if it is a range toy this doesn't really matter. A 92a1 is comming out at some point. Not sure when they are going to start shipping but they have removable front sights and a higher capacity mag(accepts the older mags as well). Also has a light rail. If they come out before you are ready to buy you might want to look at one. |
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The only thing is the slide mounted controls and I think the exposed barrel part looks stupid. ETA actually got on here to search for ya, didnt see that was you Agreed, thats why I prefer DAO in that type of gun. If I get a 92 it will probably be the traditional DA/SA though, for a range toy. |
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If his hands are small, A CZ 75B might be a better choice. Or even a Sig. The 92 is a big, heavy gun. I don't own one but have held them several times and plan to own one eventually. Overall, it's not any bigger or heavier than most 1911s. I am 5'8" and have hands that are on the low side of medium and I shoot my 92 Elite the best out of all my handguns. The trigger and slide feel like they are riding on dozens of little ball bearings...
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the 92 is a smooth shooting handgun, easy to use and parts are easy to be found. the only handgun i could think would be better suited is a g19 but if wood and metal is his thing then have at it.
i dont own a beretta at the moment but a PT92, everythings the same except the safety which i perfer to be frame mounted. but i have fired the beretta and the slide mounted isnt to bad |
| why i like my 92fs... it always goes bang, good decent mags available at relatively low cost, lots of decent9mm available at relatively low cost, recoil is vey managable, lots of spareparts because- well the gun has been around for years and is proven.... with the right holster and body type it is actually pretty concelable but obviously that is not what it is designed for. |