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2/9/2010 6:07:28 AM EDT
I am about to make a new purchase and leaning toward buying 2 at the same time. I know pricing can be all over the place........

Just curious if anyone has a feel for what percent markup most gun shops use? Or put another way, how much leverage can I get if I buy 2 at the same time?

Like I said, am sure there are a lot of differences. Just wondering if they are selling a pistol at $590, did they pay something in the 400's for it or are the margins much slimmer.

2/9/2010 6:21:43 AM EDT
[#1]
Depends on the make of the pistol.  Different markups on different brands and models.  Some dealer mark up way higher then others.
2/9/2010 6:23:32 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Depends on the make of the pistol.  Different markups on different brands and models.  Some dealer mark up way higher then others.


As it stands right now I am in the market for a XDSC and a full size XDM (9mm)
2/9/2010 6:27:02 AM EDT
[#3]
wholesale for the xdsc is (or was)around $430, the xdm i'm not sure of.
2/9/2010 6:42:13 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
wholesale for the xdsc is (or was)around $430, the xdm i'm not sure of.


Thanks, appreciate it.

Would love to hear if when purchasing 2 pistols ––- if that got you a better price?
2/9/2010 7:37:50 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
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wholesale for the xdsc is (or was)around $430, the xdm i'm not sure of.


Thanks, appreciate it.

Would love to hear if when purchasing 2 pistols ––- if that got you a better price?


Depends on the deal usually what gets you a better deal is flashing green and not plastic.
2/9/2010 7:53:50 AM EDT
[#6]
We're getting 569.00 for that gun.
(XDM)

New 3.8 Xdm's are 584.00





-That's what a guy in AZ told me.

2/9/2010 7:53:50 AM EDT
[#7]
We're getting 569.00 for that gun.
(XDM)

New 3.8 Xdm's are 584.00





-That's what a guy in AZ told me.

2/9/2010 11:13:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Don't expect a discount of more than  3-5% if you buy 2. There's just not enough profit in guns to do a lot of negotiating.
2/9/2010 1:07:01 PM EDT
[#9]
It really depends on the dealer.

Some run things very tight(10-12%), others will fuck you up the ass if you are not informed.

I'd recommend being informed about prices from multiple sources prior to spending your hard earned money.
2/12/2010 8:06:48 AM EDT
[#10]
also some gun companies demand that authorized dealers must sell at a certain price point. This is also very geographic in variation- in my area with a lot of restrcitions on pistol ownership and consequent lower demand, price is much lower than in a high demand area. this goes for used items also
2/12/2010 11:02:25 AM EDT
[#11]
Some dealer mark stuff up quite a bit, others might sell guns for as little as $40 over their wholesale price.
In general, most dealer's don't make (much) money on new guns.  Most profit is made on used inventory, ammunition, and accessories.
2/12/2010 3:26:32 PM EDT
[#12]
depends.

if they are hot sellers, i doubt it but it will depend on the shop.

my LGS doesnt make that much on NIB gun sales so he cant do alot of the price.  Used is a different story.

you will probably spend more $$$ going to differetn shops trying to save the difference.
2/14/2010 3:37:11 PM EDT
[#13]
Dealers arn't making much profit at all on guns. Its the non firearm stuff they sell is where they make money. The best my dealer will do is write up the sale as an out of state internet sale and charge me no sales tax.
2/14/2010 5:05:33 PM EDT
[#14]
used is where the dealin' happens.

a lightly used glock will bring $325 - $350, but will sell somewhere around $425-$450.

I would imagine used anything else is about the same, (1911's excluded)
2/15/2010 5:12:52 AM EDT
[#15]
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The best my dealer will do is write up the sale as an out of state internet sale and charge me no sales tax.


Your dealer may not want you posting this information on a public forum. What he's doing would be illegal....
2/15/2010 8:40:45 AM EDT
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Quoted:
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The best my dealer will do is write up the sale as an out of state internet sale and charge me no sales tax.


Your dealer may not want you posting this information on a public forum. What he's doing would be illegal....


Illinois is kind of weird on that matter.
If the customer pays the shop to get the gun, then the customer pays the shop sales tax on the full amount.
If the customer pays the seller the amount and the seller is out of state, the shop charges $20 + tax on the twenty dollars+ $5 for the phone call.
If the seller is in state, is a retail shop and NOT a private seller, who is not required to collect sales tax, and the customer pays that retailer, it is up to the seller to collect the sales tax, not the receiving shop, but if the customer pays the shop, then we have to charge him the sales tax on the full amount and not just on the $20.

Don't argue this if you don't live, own, and operate in Illinois, are not an FFL retail outlet, and have not conferred with your own tax attorney, because the owner has done just that.

Fair warning to that dealer, "conducting business in an unorthodox manner", can cost him his license and his livelyhood.