Posted: 1/1/2010 6:35:28 PM EDT
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is a Beretta 92FS.
I've had or have: Springfield XD9, XD45; Sig SP2022; Glock 19; CZ 75; Ruger SRH 44 Mag, SR9, P95, LCP; Taurus 92, 101P, Tracker; KelTec P11, P9, P32; FEG PA-63; Walther P4; Beretta PX4 SC, Neos. Most of these I still own, and the 92 is the King. Beautifully smooth action, pointability, complete reliability. In my mind a handgun doesn't get any better. Of course you will notice I've never had a 1911- yet - so we'll see how it stacks up. But at this point, the best handgun in the world in my opinion is a Beretta 92 FS. Flame Away!
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The 92fs is a greta handgun, I love mine but don't shoot it as much as my walther p99. I do think it is greta just too big & heavy for anything but open carry. Heavy? It's lighter than a HiPower or a 1911. But compared to tupperware, then yeah, heavy. It is big though. I'll give you that. I've heard of some guys figuring out how to use it for CCW though. I have no experience there. I concor with the original post. I love my M9. |
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I use full size guns like the 92 for range and home defense. For concealed carry I have the LCP and occasionally a PX4sc.
Pretty much all the handguns I've mentioned have redeeming qualities, but for overall competence the 92 has to take the cake. Or maybe I'm just a Beretta fanboy....
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I got rid of my 92 because:
You can't carry it cocked and locked, and I don't really like having 2 different trigger pulls. The safety is a poor design for a fighting gun IMO. I always felt that under stress, it would be too easy to accidentally safe it when racking the slide. Other than that, it is an awesome handgun. Only other problem was that I felt like the trigger was going to hit the frame before it went off on the long DA pull, LOL. I paid $462 OTD for mine, NIB. That was a very good deal, I'm surprised its not a $600-700 pistol. Everything seemed to fit together so nicely, you could tell the parts were high quality. I will say one thing, when you rack the slide, my HK USP sounds like a cheap toy compared to the Beretta |
I am a Glock guy. Sorry I was busy with my boyfriend before and didn't have an opportunity to respond to your thread until now.
That being said, I am a handgun enthusiast and love many types of handguns. The Beretta 92FS in particular is one of the most enjoyable 9mms for me to shoot. I see from your list that you don't own (or haven't owned) a SIG P226. You may give one of these a try as well. |
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I love my 92's because they are accurate and dead nuts reliable.
They balance well and point naturally. Plus they are easy to shoot and disassemble. They are definitely one of my favorite 9mms to shoot. ETA Call me crazy but I like the slide mounted decocker/safety too. |
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Meh, I had one and it didn't do anything for me. It was a well made weapon but it had too many negative features.
DA/SA trigger - Strike one. Stupid little awkward, backwards, sharp, slide mounted safety - Strike two. Way too big and pointy for CCW - Strike three. I had a Taurus PT92 at the same time I had the Beretta and I actually preferred it over the 92FS. The frame mounted safety lever and ability to go cocked and locked were huge advantages, IMO. Both of them were just too damn big and pointy for CCW. A handgun is a weapon of convenience and one that isn't convenient to carry is a paper weight to me. I'm not one of those guys that carries a dinky little P-32 or 642 as a carry gun either. My standard primary right now is a GLOCK 20. |
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I think you also need to try a nice example of a Browning HP before declaring a king Even longer, even heavier and less ammo. The trigger and safety are much better though. What? BHP heavier and longer then a 92? NOT... Overall Length > BHP = 7 3/4", 92FS = 8.5" Barrel Length > BHP = 4 5/8", 92FS = 4.9" Unloaded Weight > BHP = 2lbs, 92FS = 2lbs 1.3oz BHP doesn't really have less capacity either as there are reliable and easy to find 15rd mags availible for it as well. |
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is a Beretta 92FS. I've had or have: Springfield XD9, XD45; Sig SP2022; Glock 19; CZ 75; Ruger SRH 44 Mag, SR9, P95, LCP; Taurus 92, 101P, Tracker; KelTec P11, P9, P32; FEG PA-63; Walther P4; Beretta PX4 SC, Neos. Most of these I still own, and the 92 is the King. Beautifully smooth action, pointability, complete reliability. In my mind a handgun doesn't get any better. Of course you will notice I've never had a 1911- yet - so we'll see how it stacks up. But at this point, the best handgun in the world in my opinion is a Beretta 92 FS. Flame Away! ![]() You have not had true bliss until you own a 1911. |
| There are a lot of nice 9mm handguns out there. Some of my favs, Sig 225, Browning HP, and one of the best the is the Polish Radom WWII pistol. But my 92 had maybe a handfull of jams in 12k rounds and all those were bad handloads. You can clear a 92 jam easier than any other handgun I know. I never had a single problem with it in all the years. |
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When the 92f series has seen 99 years continuous military service, then get back to us. When you show me some veteran that was around when the 1911 first came into use, and still is shooting, then I'll take your statement seriously... If a gun works, a gun works. Nobody has to wait for our children to file for Social Security to prove anything. To the OP, you mentioned the PX4SC. Try a full size and then get back to us. The SC is not the same design as the full size. I love my .45 PX4, and it is unbelievable to shoot. |
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When the 92f series has seen 99 years continuous military service, then get back to us. When you show me some veteran that was around when the 1911 first came into use, and still is shooting, then I'll take your statement seriously... If a gun works, a gun works. Nobody has to wait for our children to file for Social Security to prove anything. To the OP, you mentioned the PX4SC. Try a full size and then get back to us. The SC is not the same design as the full size. I love my .45 PX4, and it is unbelievable to shoot. There are plenty of 1911 pistols around from when they first came into use that are still going strong. They outlive their original owners. What more needs be said. |
| The problem with the Beretta, is that the grip is too big for a lot of people compared to almost every other high capacity pistol out there. I really don't know how the women in the military can get their hands around it, and still get a good purchase on the trigger. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it, and you hear of very few real world problems with them. |
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The problem with the Beretta, is that the grip is too big for a lot of people compared to almost every other high capacity pistol out there. I really don't know how the women in the military can get their hands around it, and still get a good purchase on the trigger. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it, and you hear of very few real world problems with them. I've wondered about the women in the military and the 92's grip size too. My wife, is 5'3" tall , 105 lbs. and as you can imagine has very small hands. Jill absolutely adores our Beretta 92's. They are her favorite handguns to shoot. And she runs the sh*t out of them and shoots them very well. It really amazed me the first time she said she preferred my Italian 92F over my BHP's, Sig P226, M&P 9, etc. She likes a larger grip that she can really get her hands on and also maintains that she was determined not to be intimidated by any of our handguns but rather to work and master them. I'll give her credit for doing just that. |
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My wife, 5'5" 125 lbs, enjoys shooting my 92fs more than any other auto. It seems like it wouldn't fit them, but they make it work. I'm very glad to read your reply. Sounds like your wife is a keeper too. Kidding aside, desire and determination count for quite a lot. In any situation. |
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There are plenty of 1911 pistols around from when they first came into use that are still going strong. They outlive their original owners. What more needs be said. Any good quality firearm given proper care will outlast it's original owner, and his children, and theirs as well. I have plenty of weapons older than any original 1911 that still shoot very well indeed. This spurious argument proves nothing. |
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There are plenty of 1911 pistols around from when they first came into use that are still going strong. They outlive their original owners. What more needs be said. To go with what BlitzPig has also said, go take a look on Cabelas website... more importantly, the antiques section of their Gun Library. There are firearms from the mid 1800s that are being sold, and they will work just as they did back then. Does that mean that they are any better than the 1911? With your logic, it would so seem. In all fairness, to say that a pistol is not a fine weapon due to it coming out in the 1970s instead of the 1910s, you are kind of backing yourself into a corner. That automatically implies that firearm improvements over the past 100 years were not needed... for that, I really don't think a pistol that holds only two more rounds than a standard revolver is that ground breaking. Especially when your boy Browning "improved" it by making a new pistol with some of the features that the Beretta has. |
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The 92fs is a greta handgun, I love mine but don't shoot it as much as my walther p99. I do think it is greta just too big & heavy for anything but open carry. Heavy? It's lighter than a HiPower or a 1911. But compared to tupperware, then yeah, heavy. It is big though. I'll give you that. I've heard of some guys figuring out how to use it for CCW though. I have no experience there. I concor with the original post. I love my M9. I think the 92fs is a couple ounces heavier than a BHP. I think. |
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My wife, 5'5" 125 lbs, enjoys shooting my 92fs more than any other auto. It seems like it wouldn't fit them, but they make it work. I'm very glad to read your reply. Sounds like your wife is a keeper too. Kidding aside, desire and determination count for quite a lot. In any situation.
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The 92fs is a greta handgun, I love mine but don't shoot it as much as my walther p99. I do think it is greta just too big & heavy for anything but open carry. Heavy? It's lighter than a HiPower or a 1911. But compared to tupperware, then yeah, heavy. It is big though. I'll give you that. I've heard of some guys figuring out how to use it for CCW though. I have no experience there. I concor with the original post. I love my M9. I think the 92fs is a couple ounces heavier than a BHP. I think. I stand corrected. I just weighed mine empty and the M9 was 2.05 lbs and the HiPower was 1.98. The M9 FELT lighter to me. I guess just another upside. Hehehehehe. A little birdy I know told me that it is cake to carry in a cross breed holster. |