Posted: 10/8/2009 9:21:12 PM EDT
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Went to the range with a buddy and his new pistol. He had just purchased a new unfired Taurus millennium pro in 9mm.
He had taken it home, cleaned it of all the packing grease, it sat in the closet for a week, then he cleaned it again and took it to the range with us. When we picked up the brass I noticed his brass showed signs of over pressure. He had the only 9mm and the area was free of brass when we began so I know it all came from his pistol. He had shot 150 rounds of 4 different loads. 2 from Federal, Winchester white box, and some Sellier & Bellot. Every piece of brass showed these signs but we could only account for about 2/3 of the casings (others lost in grass etc) so I have no way of knowing if this was occurring from the start or it developed as more rounds were fired. Does anyone have some insight into this? Most importantly is the pistol safe to continue using or should it be sent back to Taurus, or the shop that sold it, to be looked at? Bad pic, but you can easily see where the case had been stretched to the chamber 
Primers had swelled around the firing pin and the far right the firing pin had gouged the primer, I assume on extraction. 
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| Given Taurus' hit or miss quality control, I would suspect the gun and not the factory new ammo, although unless the pistol was having functioning problems I would tend to think it will be safe so long as only factory ammo is used. Still, if it was me, I would take it back and get a better pistol. |
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Thanks for the replies, I figured there would be some brand bashing, it's not mine so I don't really care.
My buddy actually did a lot of research and weighing all factors including reputation of the company and price and that's what he chose. The only malfunction was the slide did not lock back the first time a magazine was emptied, and it didn't happen again. Quoted:
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That’s easy, mail a few of the cases back to Taurus for their evaluation… Let us know what they say.  Anyone care to enlighten me as to why this is funny? I'm assuming this has to do with an actual story or forum post. Or is it just that Taurus has a bad rep for customer service? |
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Thanks for the replies, I figured there would be some brand bashing, it's not mine so I don't really care. My buddy actually did a lot of research and weighing all factors including reputation of the company and price and that's what he chose. The only malfunction was the slide did not lock back the first time a magazine was emptied, and it didn't happen again. Quoted:
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That’s easy, mail a few of the cases back to Taurus for their evaluation… Let us know what they say. Anyone care to enlighten me as to why this is funny? I'm assuming this has to do with an actual story or forum post. Or is it just that Taurus has a bad rep for customer service? The worst. I sent problem mags to them, they lost them and said they can't send me any new ones. I raised a stink, 1 year later I got back 2 mags, pistol still doesn't work. |
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My German Sig P226 does the same thing. But with mine I think the chamber is worn out, it has seen lots of rounds, and the traces left on the brass are exactly the same. When you pass your fingernail on it it feels gritty, like sandpaper.
I'll change my barrel soon. I think for a new pistol it's extremely unusual. |
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My German Sig P226 does the same thing. But with mine I think the chamber is worn out, it has seen lots of rounds, and the traces left on the brass are exactly the same. When you pass your fingernail on it it feels gritty, like sandpaper. I'll change my barrel soon. I think for a new pistol it's extremely unusual. Sigs will also do that to a degree. I am willing to bet your barrel is fine. It takes a TON of shooting to wear out a 9mm barrrel. |
| Yes, but mine is worse than that. I can clearly see a distinct line where it gets gritty. My gun gets awesomely dirty after a box of ammo too. That's a worn out barrel, the rifling is fine, but the chamber is really too loose.a fresh round in the chamber will rattle around like it has no contact with the wall whatsoever. |
| I assume he is shooting with the barrel and chamber dry as it should be. Take the clean barrel out and see how a live rounds fits it as to head space (too long or short) and being too loose. If its a chamber problem have the dealer return the pistol. The first case is showing over pressure signs (over loaded )while the 3rd is showing unlocking too fast before the firing pin extracts which can be a recoil spring problem. The red primer is about timed to the pistol, but if its a bad chamber size it could eventually blow a case. Have your dealer get you a new recoil spring from a different batch of pistols as parts run cycles. You can see where the first round banged the extractor , but have a gunsmith check the chamber size. |
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I assume he is shooting with the barrel and chamber dry as it should be. Take the clean barrel out and see how a live rounds fits it as to head space (too long or short) and being too loose. If its a chamber problem have the dealer return the pistol. The first case is showing over pressure signs (over loaded )while the 3rd is showing unlocking too fast before the firing pin extracts which can be a recoil spring problem. The red primer is about timed to the pistol, but if its a bad chamber size it could eventually blow a case. Have your dealer get you a new recoil spring from a different batch of pistols as parts run cycles. You can see where the first round banged the extractor , but have a gunsmith check the chamber size. wow! that's pretty good from crappy photos. Thanks for the info. |