Posted: 9/21/2009 10:37:29 AM EDT
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I have a 40 caliber glock that is very abrasive to shoot. I have handloads that are minimal recommended loads and I can fire a series of 5 shot groups with waning enthusiasm for this weapon. Just to clarify....anyone could shoot this weapon but it would not be anyones favorite. Groups are great and it has never failed to load and fire. Anyone else have noticed this in their 40?
Mike 
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I have a 40 caliber glock that is very abrasive to shoot. I have handloads that are minimal recommended loads and I can fire a series of 5 shot groups with waning enthusiasm for this weapon. Just to clarify....anyone could shoot this weapon but it would not be anyones favorite. Groups are great and it has never failed to load and fire. Anyone else have noticed this in their 40? Mike No, my 115# wife shoots them all(27, 23, 22) w/ no problems(I did teach her w/ a G20 though  ). Just taught a friends 15yo daughter to shoot last month,she thought it was great(G23), granted she has nothing to compare it to but...... I have owned a 19 and a 23 at the same time and did not notice a big difference in recoil. I bought the 19 because of everything I hear, hadn't owned a 9mm in 20 years so I figured would try one for the wife, wasn't enough diff. to make it worth changing(too deep in .40's). If you have problems w/ your hands I can see where you want the lightest recoil but if you are already using soft handloads I don't think you're going to notice much difference w/ the 9 unless you get a heavy steel frame 9 and handloads, good luck.
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My 23 was nice, have a 27 and it is a bit spunky, don't trust it past 25 yards but that is my short coming.
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I tend to side with the OP on this matter. I can shoot the G23 OK, but it definately is not my favorite. I
I have Glocks in 9mm and .45 that I like better. Even the G22 and G35 are preferable (IMO) to the G23. I really want to like the G23, due to its size and caliber, but find that there are many others in line ahead of it, when the shooting time comes. |
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I agree that .40 is not much worse than 9mm +p... but I hated my G23... it is fine with light practice loads, but warmer SD loads make it much more jumpy. I sold it and went to the slightly larger G22 that I can hit with a ton better, and it holds more rounds.
I am just as good and as fast with my G22 loaded with 180 HST as my G17 with 124+p GD. |
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One thing you can do to help is replace recoil spring assy. with it's plastic rod with a recoil spring assembly with
a stainless steel rod. The added weight helps. It makes a big difference IMHO. Also as someone stated above, shoot 180 gr. ammo, that will help tame it some also. This combination helps a lot. |
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If you don't like it, dump it and get something you do like.
Not all guns are fun to shoot. If it's a range toy then what's the point of owning it if you don't like shooting it. I don't particularly enjoy shooting my SW 340PD or P3AT but they aren't range toys, they serve as defensive weapons for me so I can deal with it. |
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Wow... sorry to hear the G23 is not for you.
In my estimation (and I have owned almost every quality made handgun over the past 15 years) the G23 is the best. I currently own six of them and routinely carry and shoot them. My duty gun is a G22 but working in plain clothes I generally carry a G23. I find the G23 very very easy to control, precision accurate, and 100% reliable in a light, compact, high cap package |
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I had a G23 that I hated to shoot. The shape and angle of the grip meant that I could either get a blister on my trigger finger or a bruised thumb knuckle. It didn't help that it had the finger grooves.
I swapped it for a second-gen G19 and that's a little easier to live with... but when the XD and M&P came along, I went to them and didn't look back. |
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I am going to make the G23 my "bedside gun". I am going to hang a light on it and replace my revolver with it for self protection at night. Thanks for the replies. Mike I love my G23 and it is my favorite Glock. That said, I just got a TRL-1 light and have had some FTF with the G23. My G19 doesn't have any problems with the light. Sorry to bear bad news but hop over to the Glock discussion page and you will find posts on this issue. |
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I am going to make the G23 my "bedside gun". I am going to hang a light on it and replace my revolver with it for self protection at night. Thanks for the replies. Mike I love my G23 and it is my favorite Glock. That said, I just got a TRL-1 light and have had some FTF with the G23. My G19 doesn't have any problems with the light. Sorry to bear bad news but hop over to the Glock discussion page and you will find posts on this issue. FWIW, I had FTF issues with my 3rd Gen 23 and the TLR 1 also. Instead of swapping springs, I got a TLR 3 to replace the TLR 1. The combo has been 100% reliable through several hundred rds of Speer Lawman 180gr TMJ and Federal 180gr HST HP. The polymer body of the TLR 3 allows the frame on the 23 to flex the necessary amount to cycle properly. At least that is my understanding of why the combo works. Both are quality lights IMO, but only the TLR 3 works with my 23 reliably. The TLR 1 is now on one of my ARs. 
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| I learned to shoot on a G23. It was my first handgun. I carry it every day. I have notices, only after shooting other guns, that it has a lot of bite to it. I have shot other .40s that had way less recoil. Even my compact 1911 has less recoil. I still love my G23 though. |
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I am going to make the G23 my "bedside gun". I am going to hang a light on it and replace my revolver with it for self protection at night. Thanks for the replies. Mike I love my G23 and it is my favorite Glock. That said, I just got a TRL-1 light and have had some FTF with the G23. My G19 doesn't have any problems with the light. Sorry to bear bad news but hop over to the Glock discussion page and you will find posts on this issue. i just put the TLR-1 on my g19, still works fine too. i have heard of the issues with tac lights and the g23 as you mentioned. this and the recoil issue with have kept me from purchasing a g23. IMO the g19 is the best model glock has. i do have an mp40c, and the recoil is hardly noticeable, s&w hit the nail on the head with this 40cal. |
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Eh, I've never liked the snappy recoil of the .40, and the thick Glock grip and funky grip angle are not exactly conducive to shooting comfort either.
Most folks find the .45 acp to be easier to shoot, it's not that it has less total recoil, but it's more of a push than a smack. |
| If you don't like it get rid of it. I'm deeply invested into my .40's. I have a Glock 22 and 27 + 2500 rounds + mags+ holsters and I have enough in it to keep me in the cal. I have been looking at a 1911 and decided against it because of the ammo situation. I like to have a 1000 on hand for each cal and I could either get 1000 .45 or 1000 more .40. I'm in the process of searching out a .40 1911. Anyway what I'm getting at is I love .40 asnd feel like its not much diff. I feel like its the gun. My 27 has a lot more recoil than my 22 however my S&W 642 .38 has a bigger pop and its .38. Its all about the gun, your hand, your grip, and grip ergos. Find the perfect fit for all of those and bingo. |