Posted: 6/30/2009 8:24:51 PM EDT
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i recently got a p14.45 lda from a local trade, and i has a few concerns. reading the para literature, it states two things about the thumb saftey:
1. that it can only be engaged when the gun is cocked (like a normal 1911) 2. and that once cocked and engaged, blocks reward movement of the hammer. now this lda does the opposite of this, and i do not think thats whats supposed to happen. mine does the following: 1. i can engage the thumb safety whether the gun is cocked or not 2. if the gun is cocked, and the safety engaged, if i thumb the hammer back, it disengages the safety and leaves the gun ready to fire. this is not right, right? the guy i got it from is a stand up guy and has many guns which he has offer to replace over this one, so thats not an issue, but i dont want to bring it up again (already told him, but the guy he got it from which was his buddy said that no, thats how its supposed to be, that you can disengage the safety by cocking the hammer). thanks! |
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i think your gun has some problems.
1. the safety should engage when cocked or not. 2. if cocked and safety engaged, you should not be able to pull the hammer back and have the safety disengage. i would be calling PO to let know you have a sick gun on your hands. |
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1. By my recollection, you should not be able to engage the safety when the weapon isn't "cocked".
2. You have no business thumb-cocking a LDA (in fact, this is why carry ones have flush hammers). the trigger bar is made of some very flimsy MIM and thumb-cocking puts tremendous force on the ring-end of the bar, which may well break the part and render the weapon useless. |
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1. By my recollection, you should not be able to engage the safety when the weapon isn't "cocked". 2. You have no business thumb-cocking a LDA (in fact, this is why carry ones have flush hammers). the trigger bar is made of some very flimsy MIM and thumb-cocking puts tremendous force on the ring-end of the bar, which may well break the part and render the weapon useless. You need to recheck your LDA. The LDA is differerent and the safety WILL engage either way. |
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I just called para they said on the lda u shouldn't be able to enagage the safety if not cocked, and you shouldn't be able to disengage the saftey when cocked by cocking the hammer. So I have to definitive problems here. i guess my 3 LDAs are broke too? i mean thats what the guy at para said, and thats what all the literature i can find about the gun say too. here is a quote from some info i found online: The Para-Ordnance LDA features
three safeties. In addition to a thumb and grip safety, it also has a firing pin safety. The thumb and grip safeties work differently on the LDA than on a conventional single-action 1911. The thumb safety or slide lock safety can only be activated when the internal cocking cam has been cocked and the slide is fully forward. When the thumb safety or slide lock safety is fully engaged into the notch on the slide, it prevents the slide from moving to the rear. On a single-action 1911 it also blocks the sear, but on the LDA it disengages the drawbar and locks the hammer. With the slide lock safety engaged on the LDA, the hammer can no longer move rearward. so yea, i think it is broken |
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1. By my recollection, you should not be able to engage the safety when the weapon isn't "cocked". 2. You have no business thumb-cocking a LDA (in fact, this is why carry ones have flush hammers). the trigger bar is made of some very flimsy MIM and thumb-cocking puts tremendous force on the ring-end of the bar, which may well break the part and render the weapon useless. You need to recheck your LDA. The LDA is differerent and the safety WILL engage either way. Maybe you should check yours in light of what's been posted. I have none to check anymore... for good reason. |
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You can engage the safety on my Para LDA whether the hammer is cocked or not.
If thumb cocking the LDA is hazardous, it hasn't hurt mine yet. The only reason to thumb cock would be to hit a bad primer again. In a serious situation, one would just jack the slide as quickly as possible. It is not my favorite. I thought it would be, but it failed to impress me in the long haul. Not that it is that bad, and my friend loves mine. He doesn't love it enough to trade for it, though. I may Gunkote the frame this weekend. Part of my lack of love is the extremely ugly finish. |
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1. By my recollection, you should not be able to engage the safety when the weapon isn't "cocked". 2. You have no business thumb-cocking a LDA (in fact, this is why carry ones have flush hammers). the trigger bar is made of some very flimsy MIM and thumb-cocking puts tremendous force on the ring-end of the bar, which may well break the part and render the weapon useless. You need to recheck your LDA. The LDA is differerent and the safety WILL engage either way. Maybe you should check yours in light of what's been posted. I have none to check anymore... for good reason. i DID check my LDAs before i stated what i did. Thats why i stated you should check yours. however since you dont have any, whats the point. |