Posted: 2/13/2004 3:42:59 AM EDT
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Say, compared to a 1911 (my best point of reference)? I've shot them before, but can't really remember how wide, or long, the grips are. Looking for something lightweight in 9mm, and I don't like Glocks. Sigs I like, but if I remember correctly, it seems like the Sigs are a bit wide. So how hard are they to conceal? Full size? Compact? |
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I had wondered about the same thing, but without one to compare I was SOL, so I bought a SigP220 --------------- so here is what I feel. The SigP220 is not all that much bigger than a full size 1911, and it is a little lighter , as it has a alum. receiver. So as far as CCW , I think I will rotate between that and my Para C745. The Sig P245 did not offer much less in weight and bulk, so I just passed on it to get the benefits of the full size, which were increased sight radius, and 2 extra rounds in the mag. |
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Take a look at the 239 or 245. The 239 is the piece that I've carried for executive protection work, and is eminently concealable. I hear that the 245 is the same, in my favorite caliber. www.sigarms.com/products/classic-compact.asp |
| ShamusMcOI, most 1911s are large, heavy, but flat. I know for a fact that you can carry a P220 and P226 but a P228 is easier. Next up is the P239 and P245, these are easilly carried in good holsters. Lastly, a P230/P232 is so thin you and small you cn carry it in your pocket. For carry I would go P245, P239, P228, and then P230/P232. I wouldn't consider carrying a P220 or P226 if I had other choices as they are to large. Regards, Richard :D |
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Thanks for the input guys. Ya, I'm leaning towards the P239, as I want something in 9mm. Just how much smaller is the grip on the P239? I prefer 1911's, but the shorter grips on the compacts are a bit too short for me. Just seem to feel kind of awkward, especially with the heavier recoil. I've shot a P239 before, but it's been awhile. How much more muzzle flip or recoil do you get out of the P239 than you do out of a P226? Again, thanks for the input so far. |
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Concealing a SIG can be done with a GOOD holster mated to a GOOD belt to give the stability it needs. They are fatter through the slide, so they still havent proven anywhere as concealable as the 1911 for for me. Most of the time, I carry my SIGs in a Kramer horsehide holster or an Eagle fag-bag. |
| I think they are pretty easy to CCW if you have the right holster. I have a P220 and a P228, If you want a 9mm for CCW then check out the P225, there are a couple of threads on it in the Sig forum here. The P225 is a semi compact like the P228, but has a single stack magazine that holds 8 instead of the P228's 13. From what I gather, they make great CCW pieces, and I think that the grip on the P239 and P245 are too short to make the gun handle well. I am about 6', 180, fairly trim build. What you carry it in and what clothing you wear makes the biggest difference. |
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My buddy with the Secret Service has been concealing his 229 off duty for years, as well as his 239. The 239 is more concealable, as it is slightly smaller, and has a little bit less of a grip to print with. As Lumpy stated, get a GOOD holster and belt. That should curb some of the problems before the start. Muzzle Flip/Recoil on my 239 .40cal isn't bad at all. It's got some bark to it (or bitch factor if you will), but all in all, it's not anything that bad. If you go with the 9mm, you'll have even less. I'd recommend the Bianchi 7L Shadow for the 239. Great pancake style holster, that keeps it snug to the hip and teamed up with a good belt, isn't going anywhere. |