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12/25/2008 7:35:39 AM EDT
How reliable are the Taurus 9mm PT 111 Pro Pistols? In other words would you trust it with your life for CCW?

Also, can it hanlde hotter loads and hydrashock rounds?
thanks!
12/25/2008 9:26:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Most Taurus 9mm models are pretty reliable.  The .45 models are more finicky.

I must say, the size of the pt111 is pretty nice for CC, its like 13 oz, 10 rds with a manual safety.
12/25/2008 9:34:03 AM EDT
[#2]
I ccw a pt145 millenium pro - has about 500 rds through it, all different kinds of ammo, not a single problem yet.

I have heard their newer stuff has really stepped up in quality. (I'm not familiar with older Taurus stuff, but I've been very pleased with my purchase).
12/26/2008 6:04:55 AM EDT
[#3]
I have never had a problem out of mine.
I would not shoot more than a couple of mags of +p or +p+ thru it. Just enough to make sure it will cycle my carry ammo.
I only have about 300 rounds thru mine but no problems as of yet.
I think the trigger is getting a little smoother also.
12/26/2008 7:13:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Taurus QC has not advanced to the point that I would trust any of their products with my life.

Either save up for something better or shop for something else in the price range.

Consider a used handgun like a Glock, XD, M&P, CZ etc
12/26/2008 10:02:30 PM EDT
[#5]
My Millennium Pro PT-111 has been excellent. No malfunctions.

The quality of this (at least mine) is very nice. It really doesn't feel cheap at all. After taking it apart, I can't find anything wrong with it. Very well made.



It's got a very comfortable and slim grip, it's extremely compact and holds 12 rounds. Great little gun, and pretty affordable too.



After testing it out, I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life to it, and also I know a lot of people on the forums carry these guns daily.





As far as the hot loads, I'm not sure if it's a great idea to use +P ammo in these. In such a short barrel there's not really a whole hell of a lot of an advantage to +P loads anyway, so it seems better to play it safe.
12/27/2008 8:18:50 AM EDT
[#6]
At a recent IDPA backup gun match, I watched someone's PT145 drop a magazine at least once on every stage.  

Turns out the mag catch is plastic, and the metal mags end up chewing the plastic part up.  This fellow got a replacement part from Taurus and put the gun up for sale the same day he got the part.
12/27/2008 8:31:21 AM EDT
[#7]
That's my every day carry piece, and I haven't had a single issue in a couple thousand rounds. It perfectly cycles everything I've tried in it.
12/27/2008 4:46:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
I know a lot of people on the forums carry these guns daily.


That's not a very good reason to carry one.
12/27/2008 8:45:19 PM EDT
[#9]


Quoted:


At a recent IDPA backup gun match, I watched someone's PT145 drop a magazine at least once on every stage.  



Turns out the mag catch is plastic, and the metal mags end up chewing the plastic part up.  This fellow got a replacement part from Taurus and put the gun up for sale the same day he got the part.
The mag catch on mine is made out of metal. The button is plastic, but it's attached to a metal piece inside.






Quoted:



Quoted:

I know a lot of people on the forums carry these guns daily.




That's not a very good reason to carry one.
I never said it was
, but with all the people that own, use, and carry them, if there was some huge flaw with them, then you'd think you would see all kinds of posts bitching about them.

If there was a glaring design with the pistol, it should have been noted by now. The reports I've seen from people who actually own the guns are overwhelmingly positive.





Regardless of the manufacturer, however, I wouldn't really rely on any gun that I haven't inspected and thoroughly tested first. Every gun manufacturer has made their share of shitty guns, so it's up to you to make sure yours isn't one of them.





 
12/28/2008 6:07:50 AM EDT
[#10]
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As I am wont to say, when I worked for a very large firearms retailer, I returned more Taurus products than any other manufacturer.

And we didn't sell that many Taurus handguns to start with.
12/28/2008 7:29:26 AM EDT
[#11]
I've seen a lot of problems with the Taurus Millenium and 24/7 family. Their alloy frame guns are GTG.
12/29/2008 4:48:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I've seen a lot of problems with the Taurus Millenium and 24/7 family. Their alloy frame guns are GTG.


mostly +1
12/29/2008 5:12:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Nice plinker, wouldn't trust my life to it.
1/2/2009 3:52:01 PM EDT
[#14]
I just traded in a 10 round PT 145 (.45 ACP) for a 12 round SIG 229 (.40 S&W). There wasn't anything wrong with the Taurus. It's just that I don't want a plastic gun anymore. I'm going to stick with SIGs and 1911s and revolvers for handguns from now on. The PT145 was a DAO and it worked fine, and it was a nice size, fit my hand perfectly. I shot my carry permit qualification with it and did quite well. I know nothing about their 9mm versions. It has second strike capability, unlike the Glock and many others. SIG has a double action design for most of their pistols, called DAK, that apparently is pretty great, and it has second strike capability, if I recall correctly. The 229 that I got is DA/SA, and I haven't shot it yet. Just picked it up this afternoon.

GL
1/2/2009 4:59:18 PM EDT
[#15]


Quoted:


SIG has a double action design for most of their pistols, called DAK, that apparently is pretty great, and it has second strike capability, if I recall correctly.

Wouldn't any pistol that has a double-action trigger (Either DAO or DA/SA) have 'second strike' capability?





 
1/2/2009 5:06:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Second strike is dumb.
1/2/2009 6:04:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Second strike is dumb.



+1

Clear that MF'er and try again.
1/5/2009 1:37:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
SIG has a double action design for most of their pistols, called DAK, that apparently is pretty great, and it has second strike capability, if I recall correctly.
Wouldn't any pistol that has a double-action trigger (Either DAO or DA/SA) have 'second strike' capability?

 


Second strike is when every time you pull the trigger the striker falls. Most DAO plastic guns don't have that. You have to pull back the slide a short amount to reset the striker. It's a distinction some don't care one way or the other about. Those that do should take note of which guns have it and which don't.

I'm not buying plastic guns anymore or striker fired guns, either. So it's a non-issue with me.

GL