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8/9/2008 12:11:22 PM EDT
I have a lead on a very nice condition Gen 3 Glock that was carried by a court officer and rarely fired.  The problem is it has the shitty NY trigger.  How hard is it to put in one of the lighter triggers, how much do they cost and where is the best place to obtain one?

thanks in advance,
Hiram
8/9/2008 12:14:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Glocks are ridiculously easy to work on.
Try these guys. www.lonewolfdist.com/
8/9/2008 12:17:35 PM EDT
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Glocks are ridiculously easy to work on.
Try these guys. www.lonewolfdist.com/


So I would need what?  The springs at the bottom of this page?

I noticed the orange plastic piece in the back of the frame, had never seen one before, so I'm assuming that was the 12 pound NY trigger?  Would I just need to order a 5 pound spring or would I need other parts?
8/9/2008 12:38:00 PM EDT
[#3]
In your link, the third spring from the bottom is the stock Glock trigger spring.

It says     Glock Trigger Spring 5 Lb  GLO-350 and looks like a mini trampoline spring.
                                 

It is very easy to work on Glocks, there are instructions online.   Here is one www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/

8/9/2008 12:46:28 PM EDT
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In your link, the third spring from the bottom is the stock Glock trigger spring.

It says     Glock Trigger Spring 5 Lb  GLO-350 and looks like a mini trampoline spring.
                                 

It is very easy to work on Glocks, there are instructions online.   Here is one www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/



Right I understand that.  I don't have the pistol here since I need to get it on my permit first, so I can't disassmble it to see what I might need.  Just want to know if I need to order any other parts aside from that 5 pound spring?  I think one of the guys who works at the shop used to be his PDs armorer and now that I think about it, they carry Glocks, so I'm sure he will be able to do it.  Just need to know if I have to order any other parts aside from the spring for him.  Appreciate your assistance guys.
8/9/2008 12:49:39 PM EDT
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You will most likely need the connector also.  The spring and connector work together to provide the # pull for the trigger.

Check this schematic for the part # and you will see what I'm talking about.  http://www.lonewolfdist.com/schematic.aspx

Part #21 is the connector.  Can be bought in 3, 5, and 8 pound pulls.
8/9/2008 12:51:38 PM EDT
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You will most likely need the connector also.  The spring and connector work together to provide the # pull for the trigger.


thanks, that is what I needed to know.
8/9/2008 1:18:20 PM EDT
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Hiram, do you know which NY spring is in there? they are color coded.  You can get a very nice trigger witha NY#1 (OLIVE COLOR) and a 3.5lb connector
8/9/2008 1:19:46 PM EDT
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Hiram, do you know which NY spring is in there? they are color coded.  You can get a very nice trigger witha NY#1 (OLIVE COLOR) and a 3.5lb connector


Its the orange one.
8/9/2008 1:21:54 PM EDT
[#9]
The great majority of the guns modified with a NY spring (a NY1 spring is 8 pounds and the NY2 spring is 12) still have the stock 5 pound connector.  Putting a NY spring in with the heavy 8 pound connector is not recommended and I've never seen or heard of anyone doing it.  

Going with the 12 pound NY2 spring and a 3.5 connector gives a pull much like some DAO guns.  Some like it, I didn't.

The 3.5 connector with the stock spring makes for, IMO, a rather mushy trigger pull with an indeterminate reset, which some seem to really like, but I don't care for.  It might be fine for slow, aimed fire, but for rapid fire I shoot a Glock faster and more accurately with a crisp break and a definite reset point.

For that reason I actually prefer the NY1 spring over the stock Glock 5 pound spring, it offers a cleaner break and gives more tactile feel to the reset.

The good thing is that the parts are cheap and other than a pin punch to push out the frame pins no special tools are required.  Once you've done it a couple of times it takes 3 minutes to swap out the parts.

Get the gun first, see whats in it, shoot it, then decide if you need to make changes.
8/9/2008 1:26:48 PM EDT
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Hiram, do you know which NY spring is in there? they are color coded.  You can get a very nice trigger witha NY#1 (OLIVE COLOR) and a 3.5lb connector


Its the orange one.


That's the 12 pound NY2 spring.  Replace it with a NY1 spring or the stock one.  When you order get both and try each to see which you like the best.  The NY1 spring, besides giving more feel to the reset point, is actually a more reliable spring, even if the spring itself breaks the plastic housing will still reset the trigger.  If the stock Glock trigger spring breaks, which I've never actually seen happen, you'll have to reset it manually after each trigger pull to keep shooting.
8/9/2008 1:27:15 PM EDT
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The great majority of the guns modified with a NY spring (a NY1 spring is 8 pounds and the NY2 spring is 12) still have the stock 5 pound connector.  Putting a NY spring in with the heavy 8 pound connector is not recommended and I've never seen or heard of anyone doing it.  

Going with the 12 pound NY2 spring and a 3.5 connector gives a pull much like some DAO guns.  Some like it, I didn't.

The 3.5 connector with the stock spring makes for, IMO, a rather mushy trigger pull with an indeterminate reset, which some seem to really like, but I don't care for.  It might be fine for slow, aimed fire, but for rapid fire I shoot a Glock faster and more accurately with a crisp break and a definite reset point.

For that reason I actually prefer the NY1 spring over the stock Glock 5 pound spring, it offers a cleaner break and gives more tactile feel to the reset.

The good thing is that the parts are cheap and other than a pin punch to push out the frame pins no special tools are required.  Once you've done it a couple of times it takes 3 minutes to swap out the parts.

Get the gun first, see whats in it, shoot it, then decide if you need to make changes.


Well I can confirm the 12 pound trigger as the orange was the first thing I noticed about the frame when I removed the slide.  So are you suggesting picking up both the 5 pound spring and the olive NY spring and seeing which feels best?  Since shipping is more than the cost of the spring, might as well order them all at once rather than having to order it later and pay shipping twice.

So your personal recommendation is the olive 8 pound NY trigger with a 5 pound disconnector?  Are the disconnectors marked as to their weight so I'll know which it has?  They are cheap too, so no problem ordering them at the same time.
8/9/2008 1:28:27 PM EDT
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Hiram, do you know which NY spring is in there? they are color coded.  You can get a very nice trigger witha NY#1 (OLIVE COLOR) and a 3.5lb connector


Its the orange one.


That's the 12 pound NY2 spring.  Replace it with a NY1 spring or the stock one.  When you order get both and try each to see which you like the best.  The NY1 spring, besides giving more feel to the reset point, is actually a more reliable spring, even if the spring itself breaks the plastic housing will still reset the trigger.  If the stock Glock trigger spring breaks, which I've never actually seen happen, you'll have to reset it manually after each trigger pull to keep shooting.


Interesting to know.  Will do.  So order the NY1, the 5 pound and a 5 pound disconnector in case it doesn't already have one?
8/9/2008 1:41:04 PM EDT
[#13]
If I were you I'd just get a 3.5 connector and a stock trigger spring.

Thats the best combo IMHO, and what I run in all 4 of my Glocks.
8/9/2008 1:44:29 PM EDT
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If I were you I'd just get a 3.5 connector and a stock trigger spring.

Thats the best combo IMHO, and what I run in all 4 of my Glocks.


Is that standard factory configuration?  I've owned a few Glocks over the years.  Trigger was shit, but acceptable.  I just know the 12 pound NY trigger ain't gonna work for me.
8/9/2008 2:01:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Buy the parts from Midwayusa since you can choose First Class shipping which will be dirt cheap.  Buy a trigger spring ($2) and a 5.5# connector ($4).  Also buy a new factory recoil spring ($5), and a factory holster ($12).  
8/9/2008 2:03:15 PM EDT
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Buy the parts from Midwayusa since you can choose First Class shipping which will be dirt cheap.  Buy a trigger spring ($2) and a 5.5# connector ($4).  Also buy a new factory recoil spring ($5), and an extra mag.


I have 15 preban mags on the way... don't need any more.
8/9/2008 2:43:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Lone Wolf Distributors offers $3.00 shipping, by first class mail also ,on smallparts orders!The 3.5lb or 4.5lb connector will have a - stamped into it,the 8lb connector will have a + stamped into it.

For what its worth,I like the NY1 trigger spring with the 5lb (stock) connector.You did not mention what model Glock you were buying but,I always install the G17 trigger bar with the smooth trigger face into all my compact/sub compact Glocks also.
8/9/2008 2:45:08 PM EDT
[#18]
My apologies, 3rd gen Glock 19
8/9/2008 3:23:13 PM EDT
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If I were you I'd just get a 3.5 connector and a stock trigger spring.

Thats the best combo IMHO, and what I run in all 4 of my Glocks.


Is that standard factory configuration?  I've owned a few Glocks over the years.  Trigger was shit, but acceptable.  I just know the 12 pound NY trigger ain't gonna work for me.


No.  5.5 lbs connector is standard.

The 3.5 is noticably lighter.