Posted: 6/8/2008 7:33:47 AM EDT
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Ok, I have heard Conflicting stories on this Witness Polymer Compact... Failure to Feed issues...being a "Jam O' Matic" because its "picky" on the ammo that it will function with are some of the rumors. A gun store in NC says it will not carry Witness P Compacts because of "problems" they have with them... Their reasoning was blamed on compatibility with ammohat I am confused because i have read numerous reviews by owners of this weapon and they RAVE about its reliability and accuracy right out of the box. Can we all get some first hand reviews on this gun? It seems it would be a good CCW... but not if you cant trust your LIFE with it!!! Weapon In Question... http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk311/taurus9mil/20063-1.jpg |
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I can't comment first hand on it's reliability but I can say a few things. What I read about it on the internet isn't good. Plus it's cheap, dirt cheap...and from an unknown company. Add all these things up and I don't like it. If this is just going to be a plinking gun, then great...or if it's going to be just an addition to an otherwise full handgun collection then great. But if you plan on using this for anything akin to self defense, hunting, or home protection I'd NEVER EVER suggest this gun. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this is your first handgun and the price is what is driving you to this particular weapon. I'd highly suggest a used Glock in this instance. Dead reliable, accurate, cheap, easy to learn, and can be had for $400-$410. Or a lower on the chain a Taurus. I'd really really recommend you steer clear of this one. |
| Thanks, I did purchase a Taurus 24/7 Pro 9mm a couple weeks ago, out the door it was about 375$. I have had it to the range twice so far (total 300 rounds) and it has performed flawlessly and its very accurate. I hesitate on buying a used defense weapon, unless it was purchased from someone i knew well and knew how they treated their weapons. Budget is an issue, know of any other inexpensive options? |
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In your sub $400 range I think you made the best decision for your requirements. However, If you jump to the $500 range there are some better options: 1. New Glock ($500 at most gun shows) 2. CPO Sig (these are LEO owned guns returned to the Sig factory, Sig goes over them and reconditions them to "like new" and sells them with a waranty. I've seen them for $520) 3. S&W MP ($500ish) 4. Springfield XD ($500ish) But in all honesty, a used Glock is better in my book than a new Taurus, and can be had for the same price. Glocks are bricks, they don't break easy or often and are cheap to fix. My brother bought both, a new Taurus in .45 and a used 9mm Glock. Even though the glock is 3y old it has better fit and finish than the Taurus and is cheaper to work on if anything does go wrong. He doesn't shoot them enough though to comment on reliability of the Taurus, but we all know how reliable the Glock is. |
| Well my buddy is an avid gun collector and has many handguns, he would never carry a weapon unless he put atleast a 1000 rounds thru it to really trust it. He has a PX4 Storm 9mm, and i have to say, after I put about 4-500 rounds thru that gun in one afternoon without a hitch I am seriously considering the Storm as well! Any thoughts? |
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Unknown company? Errrr, its a Tanfoglio (Italian gun), imported by EAA under the Witness name. They are CZ clones and are excellent guns, I have never heard of anyone having serious issues with either their steel or polymers models. EDIT: The only thing I have heard ammo wise with this and some CZ's as well, is that they sometimes don't like aluminum cased ammo, which I have never shot anyways. They are mostly known for their race guns: (Tanfoglio Limited Custom in 10mm) 
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I've read of quite a few problems with the compact 10mm Witness (I was considering buying on a year or two back) as far as feeding problems, cracked slides (or frames, I honestly can't remember which) and finish problems. Spend some time at 10mmTalk or the 10mm forum at Glocktalk and you'll run into discussions of the Witness 10mm's fairly often. Not saying they're not good guns, but they certainly do have problems. The CZ design they're using is excellent, but the metals and finishing seem to be less than excellent. |
I wasn't aware of that, but it's probably internet forum syndrome (a few cases blown way out of proportion, when the other 100,000 guns run fine). Every gun has these kinds of things happen.
Good idea, I've got CZ RAMI in 9mm polymer/stainless that I love! That would be a good choice as well. |
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Read some of the posts here in the Handgun forum and get a Glock 19... www.summitgunbroker.com/ or CDNN Have good used Glocks. They're ugly, boring guns that are reliable and cheap. |
But it's the 10mm version. A lot of companies had problems with their 10mm. They often just upsized a 9mm, or maybe a .45 and expected them to handle the much higher pressures. Using that logic, the S&W Model 19 is a piece of shit because it won't handle steady shooting of full power .357 magnum loads. |