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4/26/2008 10:20:42 AM EDT
I've had a PX4 storm in 9mm for about a year now, and it is a fantastic pistol in all aspects - 100% reliable after about 600 rds so far, more accurate than I can shoot, great erganomics, easy to clean and maintain.  I bought mine NIB for $395 from Schramms at a TX gun show.  Just for the record, I have a G19 that I'm equally fond of.  

It seems like the PX4 hasn't caught on so much.  I don't see many, or hear of many owning them.  However, what little I have heard has all been positive.  

Any ideas on why it isn't catching on?  I love mine.  



4/26/2008 10:30:46 AM EDT
[#1]
I have had mine about 3 weeks Im about 1100-1200 rounds into it great gun.
There is stiff competition out there M&P is taking 9mm market by storm. One thing hurts PX4 no accesories for it. You can buy anything for Glocks/Sigs/M&P: front sights, trigger/recoil kits every holster you can dream of.

Only holster for PX4:Bladetech, Safariland, Brigade Gunleather that I have seen so far. No fiber optic sights or anything else.
I hope they catch on we will see.    

I purchased mine specifically for IDPA.
4/26/2008 10:47:31 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I have had mine about 3 weeks Im about 1100-1200 rounds into it great gun.
There is stiff competition out there M&P is taking 9mm market by storm. One thing hurts PX4 no accesories for it. You can buy anything for Glocks/Sigs/M&P: front sights, trigger/recoil kits every holster you can dream of.

Only holster for PX4:Bladetech, Safariland, Brigade Gunleather that I have seen so far. No fiber optic sights or anything else.
I hope they catch on we will see.    

I purchased mine specifically for IDPA.


I couldn't sum it up any better.  It kept me from buying.
4/26/2008 11:51:27 AM EDT
[#3]
What sold me on buying one, I could not wait for a STI GP6. I wanted a rotating locking barrell desighn. I must say for me the felt recoil is less than a G17 and M&P 9mm since the barell rotates straight back to unlock. The PX4 storm is lighter I think than a M&P and no more than a G17.
I keep thinking if they made a all metal version the gun would have real felt no recoil at all. That would rock!
I brought it up on another thread I did cut two coils off the hammer spring it did help with the DA pull. Sets of primers no issues.
4/26/2008 4:23:27 PM EDT
[#4]
No idea, I've had my PX4 for 2 years now almost and I love it. It's incredibly reliable, has a nice grip and is my concealment piece. I'll be sending mine to Dave Olhasso soon for some work.

-Corey
4/26/2008 4:25:06 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
No idea, I've had my PX4 for 2 years now almost and I love it. It's incredibly reliable, has a nice grip and is my concealment piece. I'll be sending mine to Dave Olhasso soon for some work.

-Corey


Who is Dave Olhasso, and what does he do?
4/26/2008 4:26:28 PM EDT
[#6]

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I keep thinking if they made a all metal version the gun would have real felt no recoil at all. That would rock!



its called the beretta couger, now made by stoeger.


edit, also: www.olhasso.com/beretta/index.htm

edit again: tucker gunleather makes holsters for hte px4 as well. i have a texas heritage IWB for mine.
4/26/2008 4:29:41 PM EDT
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No idea, I've had my PX4 for 2 years now almost and I love it. It's incredibly reliable, has a nice grip and is my concealment piece. I'll be sending mine to Dave Olhasso soon for some work.

-Corey


Who is Dave Olhasso, and what does he do?


http://www.olhasso.com/beretta/bio.htm

He's a competition gunner, has an excellent reputation for his work. I've bought parts from him for my PX4 and 92FS before, good guy.

-Corey
4/26/2008 4:58:28 PM EDT
[#8]
If they'd kept the mags compatible with the classic M-92, and 90 TWO mags,  I'd have been alot more interested.  Particulary if they ever come out with the PX4 Sub compact.
4/27/2008 7:11:27 AM EDT
[#9]
I've had my PX4 9mm for exactly a year now.  I've put probably 800rounds through it, not one problem with reliability.  Zero FTF, zero FTE, not one problem.  I also kinda put it through an ammo test and shot all sorts of different brands, types, and ages of ammo.  Still no problems.  I bought it as my gift to myself for my 21st birthday, my very first pistol.  I really liked the mechanics of the rotating barrel and overall people had commented on the lower recoil compared to other similarly sized 9mm (wanted something the lil' lady could handle).  I love it! I feel the same way about accessories.  It would've made shopping a heck of a lot easier if the PX4 would take 92 mags, they are everywhere.  Also, as far as a holster, I've been looking at getting a Comp-Tac MTAC.  Pretty much all of the Comp-Tac holsters have a PX4 option, so just a thought.
4/27/2008 7:42:23 AM EDT
[#10]
pretty good guns

sumed up that there is a lack of stuff for it and non-compatability w/. 92 mags
4/27/2008 9:32:59 AM EDT
[#11]
I had Dave Olhasso do a trigger job on my PX4 and convert it to a "G" model (decocker only) and he does excellent work. XS does have big dot and standard dot sights for the PX4.
BE-0008s-5 for the big dot
BE-0008s-6 for the standard dot
You have to call to get them as they are not on the web site
4/27/2008 11:18:39 AM EDT
[#12]
I saw one in a training class last year in .40.  Seemed to run well.

I'm happy with what I'm currently using (see sig-line) and don't think I would ever buy one due to the parts / accessory availability issues but the one I saw ran well in a pretty intensive class.

Mike

4/28/2008 5:12:07 PM EDT
[#13]
I've owned the .40 PX4 for just under a year. I have not had a failure 1 in about 800 rounds.

I just bought the 9mm PX4 this weekend, and have been to the range twice already. As I expected, I've had no failures in about 175 rounds of 115 and 124 grain +P+, +P, and standard pressure.

I really like these pistols.

There is talk of a "trigger sting" issue in the .40. Only some are experiencing it. Kind of like the magazine drop issue with the S&W M&P. Only some. Plenty of talk about it on the Beretta forum. The difference is that S&W acknowledged the problem, and changed design. Beretta is disavowing that there is a problem.

I wish I could agree with the reduced recoil aspects of the rotating barrel, but don't think it's really there. Beretta seems to like to design for straight line feed. The 92FS uses the locking block, the barrel recoils straight back. I've never heard anybody say the 92 recoils less than other 9mm pistols that use tilt-barrel.  The rotating lock is just another way to do it. Anyway, I can't feel any difference.

I don't think Beretta aggressively markets, or "gives away" their pistols to the LEO community like some other companies. Plus, they're making a nice chunk of change with the US Armed Forces contract.

And I think there's a trend to adapt pistols that have a consistent trigger pull, ala Glock or M&P, since so many LEO's aren't really experienced shooters, especially now that they have to come from such a cross-section of society. Meaning some have never shot any kind of weapon before.

I think I have read about at least three agencies adapting the PX4. And there might be more.
5/1/2008 12:07:00 PM EDT
[#14]
The reason it kept me away was the grip... just didn't feel right... I know they have interchangeable back straps and such, but for some reason it just doesn't feel right at all. Instead I went the XD route.
5/1/2008 1:33:55 PM EDT
[#15]
With the recent introduction of more great striker-fired guns like the XD, M&P, etc., there are fewer people than ever who want to dick with the PX4's DA/SA operation mode.

The slide-mounted decocker / safety is another "feature" that should have been dropped from the PX4 when they had the chance.
5/1/2008 1:52:14 PM EDT
[#16]

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With the recent introduction of more great striker-fired guns like the XD, M&P, etc., there are fewer people than ever who want to dick with the PX4's DA/SA operation mode.

The slide-mounted decocker / safety is another "feature" that should have been dropped from the PX4 when they had the chance.


Too right!

I sold mine after only a few hundred rounds. Excellent pistol but I won't dick around with that old SA / DA trigger now days. They finally introduced the 'C' Model but too little too late...this gun will be a loser in the market even though it is a great pistol. JMO
5/2/2008 11:21:42 AM EDT
[#17]
I disagree The decocker is just that, de-cock after shooting people not a saftey. I find with frame mounted de-cockers such as on CZ's they get in the way of my grip. I think its in the right spot. DA/SA does have a advantage after you det through that DA shot typically the SA is way better than the DAO type glock/M&P triggers.
5/2/2008 11:28:04 AM EDT
[#18]

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I disagree The decocker is just that, de-cock after shooting people not a saftey. I find with frame mounted de-cockers such as on CZ's they get in the way of my grip. I think its in the right spot. DA/SA does have a advantage after you det through that DA shot typically the SA is way better than the DAO type glock/M&P triggers.


It really doesnt matter.  Its all personal preference.  In some threads/posts you will get people bitching about frame mounted decokers/safetys, that they accidentally decock the gun due to their grip.  Then in another thread/post you will get people bitching about slide mounted decockers/safeties, that they accidentally decock or put the gun on sage when racking the slide.

Each argument is fairly rediculous if you think about it.  I.e. wanting a frame mounted safety deocker because you dont like the slide mounted safety/deocker or wanting a slide mounted safety/decocker because you dont like a frame mounted safety/decocker.  There are issues with both.  The only real answer is to get a gun with either to completely eliminate the problem.
5/2/2008 11:30:03 AM EDT
[#19]
I had the .45 PX4 and ended up selling it (at a loss) without ever even firing it.  I had to sell it at a loss as no one wanted the damn thing.

It was one of those late gun show "impulse" purchases that you know you never should have done in the first place.

For me, the single greatest problem is the fact it is a full size handgun yet in the case of the .45 you only get 9+1 rounds...WTH is up with that?

After I sold it I picked up a Glock 21SF - back to 13+1 and I'm happier now.

I agree with the old addage that 9 or 10 rounds of .45 are better than 14 or 15 of 9mm...but if given the choice I'd rather have 14 or 15 of .45 :)

Earl
5/2/2008 12:11:11 PM EDT
[#20]
A slide-mounted decocker makes some sense when it's like the Walther P99's, unobtrusive and away from surfaces that you might be grabbing in a hurry.

Putting it on the slide right exactly where most folks will grab it to slingshot it is simply a bad idea IMO.