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2/22/2008 5:38:31 PM EDT
Help settle an argument between my friend and I.
2/22/2008 5:49:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Sig
2/22/2008 5:58:01 PM EDT
[#2]
HK.  Now settle an argument between TOL1488.  
2/22/2008 6:01:00 PM EDT
[#3]
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Quoted:
HK.  Now settle an argument between TOL1488.  
2/22/2008 6:01:14 PM EDT
[#4]
Both are great pistols. You can't go wrong with either one. It is just personal preference.
2/22/2008 7:07:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Get both  




2/22/2008 7:12:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Come on guys! H&K all the way! Help me prove Little_Herman wrong.
2/22/2008 7:54:17 PM EDT
[#7]
I have 3 Hks and all are great handguns.  I have two Sigs and both are .  Hk all the way.
2/22/2008 7:58:07 PM EDT
[#8]
I've owned several of both.  The only Sig I consider I'd consider at this time would be a 551 or 552.

I would own H&K's again for sure.
2/22/2008 8:46:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Just my opinion:

If we are talking the 'classic' P-series Sigs, of German origin and with the rolled-steel slides, Sig wins hands down.

If we are talking about the new stainless-slide Sigs, some made in Exeter, HK wins hands down.


Sig used to make a few models exceedingly well. Now that they have adopted the S&W 'model of the month' system, I think the quality of their core models (P226,220, and RIP 228) has suffered. HK, on the other hand, still makes sorta-overpriced polymer-framed pistol with no models having noteworthy faults or problems (that I have heard of.) We'll see if the P30/HK45 live up to the hype, but the USPs and P2000s have proven to be reliable.
2/22/2008 9:28:07 PM EDT
[#10]
I've owned both, sold the Sig. Was NOT impressed.    
2/22/2008 9:32:50 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Get both  

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There is the answer. I own a Sig. My bro owns both.
2/23/2008 8:14:50 AM EDT
[#12]
why hk over sig?? what does hk have special?
2/23/2008 8:18:25 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Both are great pistols. You can't go wrong with either one. It is just personal preference.




+45

I have both (and then some)


92F
P220
USP45F
2/23/2008 8:19:37 AM EDT
[#14]
This is a really rough poll.

It's a toss up between my Sig P229 or my HK USP Compact for what I carry each day.
2/23/2008 8:26:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Sig for me.

You HK fans can keep your external safeties.

[Hoot] This is MY safety! [Hoot]





2/23/2008 8:48:06 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Sig for me.

You HK fans can keep your external safeties.

[Hoot] This is MY safety! [Hoot]


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We get a choice of whether or not we want an external safety.   I consider the choice of multiple variants a big plus for HK.  The only downside to HK is stocking spare parts.  It can be very hard to get spares unless the gun breaks and you send it back.

I do have a 229 I enjoy as well.
2/23/2008 8:58:04 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Sig for me.

You HK fans can keep your external safeties.

[Hoot] This is MY safety! [Hoot]


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Hey, anyone can pull a trigger.. but it takes a real man to thumb the safety down!  
2/23/2008 9:10:50 AM EDT
[#18]
I've got both, 2 HK's and 1 Sig. The ergos of the two HK's fit me better than the sig but I wouldn't hesitate to get either one of them again.
2/23/2008 9:28:39 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Sig
2/23/2008 9:55:21 AM EDT
[#20]
If you would have asked this question two weeks ago I would have said Sig. However, since my purchase of an HKP30 I have fallen totally in love with HK.
2/23/2008 10:13:52 AM EDT
[#21]
HK.  

I always found Sig ergos sorta goofy.  HK wins in the fit and finish department too, and they'll run reliably even bone-dry.
2/23/2008 10:18:29 AM EDT
[#22]
I've owned both and still own...wait for it...neither!

The HK was the better of the two though.
2/23/2008 10:24:54 AM EDT
[#23]
2/23/2008 10:46:16 AM EDT
[#24]
SIG.  I know HK's work but they don't fit my hand well and I don't like their controls.  Both are solid pistol platforms.  I don't see where one is any better than the other.
2/23/2008 3:13:20 PM EDT
[#25]
I have a number of SIGs and HKs. They are both great weapons. I would trust my life and the lives of my kids to either one.

I like SIGs because:

1. They have a great all-metal trigger.
2. I like the trigger reset better (after the GGI CRRAP package).
3. I like the ability to switch grips. The Hogue finger grip is my favorite, but the Crimson Trace SIG grips are good as well.
4. I like the SIG mag release very much.
5. Although heavy, metal is good.

I like HKs because:

1. They are precision instruments and are very reliable.
2. They are lighter than SIGs.
3. They are very accurate right out of the box.
4. My P2000 has changeable backstraps to just match your handsize. HKs are very ergonomic and fit my hand very well.
5. The HK lightrails look better than the ones now on SIGs.
6. HKs tend to have less recoil that other pistols of the same caliber.
2/23/2008 3:25:50 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Sig for me.

You HK fans can keep your external safeties.

[Hoot] This is MY safety! [Hoot]


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LEM is AWESOME!  HK hands down.

Page 2 ownage!
2/23/2008 4:28:00 PM EDT
[#27]
HK.  Why?  Simple.

-Finish is infinitely better
-Quality control *especially in later models* is much more consistent
-Condition one
-SA trigger pull doesn't feel like a sponge *though sig's DA pull has HK beat*
-Will eat all types of ammo from underpowered crap to +p+
-Incredible accuracy
-Glock-like reliability
-Forgiving design- run it wet, dry, dirty, whatever.

Personally, I have no reason to ever own another Sig again.  IMHO, HK just designs and builds better guns throughout the entire process.
2/23/2008 8:07:34 PM EDT
[#28]
HK
2/23/2008 9:39:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Well, our original deal was that whoever was in the lead after 100 votes would be the winner. With only 7 votes left until 100, HK is ahead by 11. I WIN! Thank you very much, ARFCOM!
2/23/2008 9:43:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Swiss > German
2/23/2008 9:56:34 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
Swiss > German



This would be relevant if Swiss SIGs made up more than 0.1% of SIGARMS US sales
2/24/2008 10:09:43 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Get both  

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+1

but w/ Sig's current production QC and CS, i'd take HKs
3/4/2008 8:05:34 PM EDT
[#33]
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3/4/2008 8:07:16 PM EDT
[#34]
This is really caliber dependant.
HK for .45
Sig for all others.
3/4/2008 11:31:28 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
This is really caliber dependant.
HK for .45
Sig for all others.


Ummm, The 220 is Sig's most famous pistol and it is a .45. The 220 is every bit the gun the HK is.
3/5/2008 6:59:36 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
This is really caliber dependant.
HK for .45
Sig for all others.


Ummm, The 220 is Sig's most famous pistol and it is a .45. The 220 is every bit the gun the HK is.


-4 rounds and with a crappy finish
3/5/2008 7:02:08 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
This is really caliber dependant.
HK for .45
Sig for all others.


Ummm, The 220 is Sig's most famous pistol and it is a .45. The 220 is every bit the gun the HK is.


-4 rounds and with a crappy finish

And lots of extra muzzle flip
3/5/2008 7:24:38 AM EDT
[#38]
Sig Rules!!!!!!


3/5/2008 7:28:43 AM EDT
[#39]
SIG for me, as HK's and my hand don't mesh well.