Posted: 1/21/2008 10:36:08 AM EDT
| of the handgun variety. I'm just starting to carry concealed and wondered if anyone has had or heard of any documented accidental discharge cases? I've heard of a couple Glocks, but I'm carrying a P3AT in an Uncle Mikes inside the pocket. Anything? |
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I was always taught to stay at least two mistakes away from an AD. So for CC, to me that means a holster that covers the hammer with a retention strap and it must cover the trigger gaurd well too. This would apply to my revolvers and my 1911 and my CZ82. The revolver gets carried ready for DA use as does the CZ. Both have excellent smooth DA triggers. The SA 1911 get carried in condit 1 but the safety is on of course and the retention strap falls between the hammer and the firing pin. It has a grip safety too. I' I've read that some folks pin those down. I wouldn't do that. If I carry my XD, it's holster covers the TG well and you of course have the grip safety. So for me each of my carry pieces that I can use needs two or three mistakes on my part for a AD to happen. A guy on another board had an AD this Fall and shot himself in the thigh. He had a painful recovery from that. I thought it was great of him to offer his lesson up for others to benefit from. One reason I prefer my XD to a Glock, besides it fits my hands better, is that grip safety to back up the trigger safety. I see CC as a big responsibility to do it well. Safety has to be #1. |
There posted on page nine of the blew my thumb off with a .460 S&W thread |
| Yeah, I saw the thigh shot. I have been carrying unloaded around the property to see if the gun would come loose or discharge. There are lots of light chores, bending, lifting, crawling under vehicles. No problems so far, but I'm surprised at how many times my gun is pointing in the direction of my gonads or someone else special. The P3AT has a pretty long trigger pull, so it would have to have a real malfunction to discharge w/o a finger on the trigger. |
WTF, unloaded = no ND |
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This is a daily topic over on GlockTalk, it and the "How do I install the 3.5 trigger?" alternate one after the other. Seriously, there was a video a few years back of a female cop having a ND with a DA berreta 92 just from the stress of an arrest. Train to keep your finger off the trigger until you want to fire and remove immediately. Having your finger off the trigger will eventually feel natural and touching it won't. Problem solved. |
The one where the guy is down being handcuffed and she puts a round next to his head? Red car in the background? The poster child of incompetence. 
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In order for the weapon to be effective the operator and weapon must be 1 system. weapon=operator=nd=ad. Keep the trigger guard covered to keep the chance low of becoming a one nut wonder. |
Incorrect. How would you describe my SKS firing when it was sitting on the shooting bench, not being touched by anyone, not falling, not being struck by any object? |
| Well, shit can happen. Like the SKS, I have an old lever action Winchester that will occasionaly fire itself with just some slight movement of the gun or lever - not the trigger. Fortunately we found out about this while it was pointing at a mound of dirt. Anyway, I would hate for this to happen while the gun was in my pants. |
And my Glock 20 slam firing as I closed the slide on a fresh mag in my bedroom? My finger wasn't anywhere near the trigger. 
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| My Glock 19 is probably my favorite gun. It may in fact be the best all around handgun of all time. However, I would have to be in a desperate situation to stick that gun in my pocket or inside my belt, with a round in the chamber. In my opinion, the chances of the trigger getting bumped while running, bending or me pulling the gun, are just too great. My P3AT, with its long, difficult trigger pull, seems to make more sense for cc. Fortunately, the Glock (and just about everything else) is too big for my britches. |
Put it in a proper holster that covers the trigger. The "safety" for a glock is a good holster and proper trigger finger discipline. Comp-Tac CTAC Blade Tech IWB. Raven Concealment Systems |