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4/16/2003 8:25:59 PM EDT
I have a Gold Cup Natl Match. Is it possible (and cost worthy) to purchase a commander (4") barrel, spring guide/spring and slide and slip it onto the Natl Match full length lower?

If so, what parts/manufacturers are recommeded? THANKS!
4/16/2003 11:03:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Is it worth it? No.

You'd have to have the slide fitted in order to make it shoot decently. The dust cover of the GC is longer than the Commander frame as well.

By the time you bought parts from Brownells & paid a good gunsmith to fit it all together, you could've bought a good used Commander.

My .o2
4/17/2003 4:01:52 PM EDT
[#2]
What Bob said ......
4/17/2003 5:19:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Roger-that. Thanks. Springfield Champion it shall be...
4/17/2003 9:57:43 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Roger-that. Thanks. Springfield Champion it shall be...




NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

I once owned a Champion, I couldn't get the SOB to run for shit despite several trips to the gunsmith. The nose of the rds would hit the slide catch & lock the slide back. NOT a desireable bit for a CCW use.

Not to slam SA as my Govt model is a SA. I would suggest getting either a "real" Commander by Colt or perhaps a Kimber.
4/18/2003 9:49:46 AM EDT
[#5]
BobCole: I copy your advice. Can you be more specific on ammo make and bullet type? My other choice is a Kimber Tactical 4". The trigger pull felt crisper and not as creepy at onset on the Springfield, that was one reason I was leaning SA. Also, I favored the steel/steel on the SA versus steel/aluminum on the Kimber. Your thoughts are welcomed!
4/18/2003 5:22:53 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
BobCole: I copy your advice. Can you be more specific on ammo make and bullet type?  230gr FMJ, basic cannon fodder.   My other choice is a Kimber Tactical 4". The trigger pull felt crisper and not as creepy at onset on the Springfield, that was one reason I was leaning SA. Also, I favored the steel/steel on the SA versus steel/aluminum on the Kimber. You should be able to get steel/steel on the Kimber as well, AFAIK.  Your thoughts are welcomed!

4/18/2003 7:02:23 PM EDT
[#7]

230gr FMJ: So your slide lock problem only occured with FMJ. No other rounds? Such as deep cavity JHPs?

Unless you know something I don't, the Kimber Tactical Pro II is Steel/Aluminum.
4/19/2003 8:53:49 AM EDT
[#8]
If you know the rounds are hitting the slide lock, you can always shave a little at a time to be able to use most any type bullet.  Even with the precise, multi use, hand held machine shop we call the dremel, not too much to screw up.  My .02
4/19/2003 5:27:00 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
If you know the rounds are hitting the slide lock, you can always shave a little at a time to be able to use most any type bullet.  




Hell, I had my gunsmith do damn near everything to make that SOB run, all to no avail. I'm not the first one with problems with the Champion, I assure you.
4/20/2003 8:00:41 AM EDT
[#10]
If you're going to carry more than shoot the aluminum frame is the way to go. However if you're going to shoot more than carry the steel frame makes more sense.

My L.W. Commanders has a lot or rounds down range and has 20+ years of carry.