Posted: 6/17/2006 1:13:04 PM EDT
| Looking to get a laser/light for my stainless P226 in .357 Sig. I have narrowed it down to eiether the M6X or TLR2. Which one is better? |
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TLR2... Well I figured everyone would agree with me, thanks burkey for proving me wrong  Anyways, I'll state my simple reason for liking the TLR series more. The mounting system is adjustable. You can get it tight onto any rail, and when its mounted, its not going anywhere. It is very solid. My M3x was wonderful for a weapon light, but it was loose enough that I wouldn't have trusted a laser mounted on it. |
Agreed. No experience with the TLR at all, lol just wanted to stir up the shit pot. I really like my M6. It fits really well on my Kimber Warrior, but is a little lose on my Beretta Vertec. The M6X has two crossbars for the right fit depending upon model. I am sure the TLR is great as well. |
Well, my guess is...if you're worried about getting a few marks on your rail, then your Sig won't be used in a fashion that would require it to have a weaponlight/laser on it in the first place. BTW, my plastic lights have worn down the rail on my Kimber more than the metal. Even though its just plastic, sliding it on and off all the time takes the finish off of the front corners of the rail, as well as the angled portion of the rail. With the TLR, you do not slide it on. You unscrew it, place it where you want it, then tighten the screw. If anything...it will keep the front exposed portion of the rail looking nicer since you wont be sliding it. I also fail to see how one could tighten in enough to do any damage to the rail. You only need to finger tighten to keep it from moving. Hell, the spring tension alone keeps it in place. However, who gives a shit if you mark up your rail? |
It will certainly be used in a fashion to justify the attachment of a laser/light combo. Excuse me for being concerned about destroying the mounting interface on a 900+ gun thats less than a week old. Rounding off the rails is a big deal and can lead to a less than positive attachment and possible replacement. I would question the quality of Kimber if thier rail can be damged by a plastic component..... I think I am leaning towards the M6X just because it eliminates the metal/metal mounting. While the TLR2 may be better, I think the M6X is probably very comperable. I think it will come down to which one I can get cheaper..... |
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And I suppose I would then have to question your ability to read? I said it takes the finish off, not round the corners. I guess it depends on your definition of damage. To me, when finish comes off from natural wear...thats not damage. Thats called "hooray, you actually use your fucking gun for what it was designed for". Also, I don't know of any metal lights that are slid on to a rail....so it wouldn't round anything off anyways. If you do it all the time, it may eventually put little scuff marks on it...but as I said before, sliding will cause more surface wear (yes, even plastic). If you're worried about "damaging" your 900 dollar gun, then don't shoot it. That will do alot more damage to it than a light... You said you'd question Kimbers quality if their rails were worn down by a light...yet you posted that you were aware of a Sig that had that issue? Well...ok. Sorry I told you cold hard fact. Next time I won't say anything. Either way, yours is stainless, so who cares? Going to be pretty hard to mark that up. Bottom line is...unless you're a complete utter idiot, mounting the TLR on your precious 900 dollar sig isn't going to do anything to it. You can very gently place it on, then lightly tighten it down. The plastic on the M6x that will need to be slid on your rail to attach WILL cause more "damage" to the mounting interface of your 900 dollar gun. Oh well, do what you want. Next time, buy an HK and you won't have to worry about damaging anything 
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Jesus Scott, bad day at work? You were a little harsh on that guy  .I do agree with Marksman14, you are not going to ruin your gun by attaching and detaching a light/laser combo unit. My Beretta Vertec has some minor finish wear on the rails with the use of a plastic M6. I have taken that unit on and off literally hundreds of times because I do not have a holster that will fit the pistol with the M6. Hundreds of times and only a little finish wear on the rails of a $600 Beretta Vertec. You didn't believe Marksman14 when he said it, but perhaps if I say it too, the M6 plastic on metal will wear the finish a little. It didn't damage the metal, but the finish is worn on the rails. Sorry, no actual experience with the TLR. |
lol, I just don't like when someone asks for advice, and is given advice by someone who has owned both items in question...only to be doubted. I also can't stand people who purchase firearms, put on "tactical" accessories, then bitch about natural wear. Abuse/neglect wear I can understand...but come on... |
Before you post, you may want to ask yourself: "How will my reply contribute to the topic?" If you have a problem with what another person chooses to do with their own money, you have no right (IMO) to bring it up, especially in public, and especially in a thread that has absolutly nothing to do with the price of a SIG pistol, let alone a thread that has nothing to do with "How much people pay for a gun". |
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I purchased a Sig P226R .357 in stainless with Siglite night sights and 5 factory 12 round magazines, 2 boxes of 125grn Gold Dots for over 900.00 plus tax. Your are dreaming if you think you can get a Sig 226 in stainless with nightsights and 5 12 round magazines for under 800.00 There is a big difference between wear/damage. Believe me, I am not concerned with wear, look at my M9 that I carry concealed everyday. While wear doesn't bother me, damage does. Damaging the rail interface on an expensive handgun doesn't really appeal to me. Again, a member of this site mentioned damage to his 220R from a TLR2, not wear but actual damage. Apparently, the edges of the rails were rounded off causing a loose/sloppy fit. There is a big difference between stripped/damaged rails and wear......Some people on this site are way to intense and need to really calm down. I didn't doubt anyone, there was just a miscommunication. Offering good advice and then acting like a trout kinda negates any valid points you may have made. |
Well, you didn't mention the mags and ammo originally, with those $900 is more reasonable, but it wouldn't be hard to find a NIB Stainless SIG 226 w/ night sights for $800. But once again, I am not contributing to the thread, so................ The TLR-2, barring user error, shouldn't cause premature wear of your rails. It might wear them more than if you didn't put ANYTHING on them, but that is obviously not your intent. |
I have used the M3, M6, and the TLR-1. I haven't used the M6X or the TLR-2. But, from the experiences I have had, I would definitiely go with the TLR-2 of the 2. Price is an issue, but I think the longer battery life and the fact you can't break the bulb are the biggest selling points for me. The switches on the two work exactly the same, so no points to either on that part. The TLR is really a good light, and is the best mousetrap on the market right now IMHO. Wish they had come out with these things five years ago. I'd have four by now. |
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Price difference locally is 50.00 between the TLR2 and M6X. I showed the GF both and looked upon them longingly. I noticed that she went back and snapped a picture of both when she thought I wasn't looking, which is awesome as our anniversary is on the 4th....which is why I haven't been able to buy one yet....maybe if acts up I can affix the diamond earings to my rail as an impromteau light? I spent months looking for my Sig 226 and looked at several different sources and I am convinced you don't know as much about the market price as you would like to believe. The MSRP on my gun is over 1k, according to Sigarms.com, which would make under 800.00 a steal. I contacted several sources, including dealers on this board and they eiether didn't have any/couldn't get any or didn't have a great price. There is much more to purchasing a gun than the sticker, especially if you are ordering. If I had ordered a Sig from Eagle Tactical, I would have had to pay 30.00+ for overnight shipping and another 30.00 for an FFL transfer. Figuring in the extra and the fact that I would have to drive accross the border to the state of my legal residence and ordering a gun that has a slightly cheaper sticker price isn't worth it....I would be thrilled to know where you can find a NIB Sig P226 in stainless with night sights for 800.00. Keep in mind, a Sig P226R in Nitron, sans night sights sells for 769.00 at Ranier Arms. Im not sure why exactly you care what I paid for my gun. Even if I did get ripped off*which I most certainly didn't* what would you gain from reminding me or rubbing it in? Does telling someone they paid to much make you/them feel better? You are contributing to this thread....contributing your current ignorance on the current market price of Sig's. |
I TRIED to drop it after it was pointed out that it didn't contribute, I went back and edited my post to remove it before you could read it, but you just keep bringing it back up. My experience comes from dealing with a couple of local FFL holders. One has a small shop and the other basically works out of his home, they have little overhead, and will often sell stuff for very low markup. You may not be able to walk in one day and walk out with your gun the same, but that's the price you pay to save some cash. Larger outfits have more inventory and higher costs so they tend towards higher prices. That's the last I'm going to say on the issue, I hope you have good luck with you're search for a light. |