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Posted: 3/28/2006 7:46:19 AM EDT
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare.


1. US. Army
2. US Navy Seals
3. US Secret Service
4. FBI
5.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:28:16 AM EDT
regular army, navy, marine corps, air force, and coast guard units are issued the beretta m9 aka beretta 92 as a sidearm. some units have been able to get the m11 which is the sig p228 but they are iirc reserved for remf types.

the navy seals are basically allowed depending on mission to carry any nato standard sidearm and even a few that aren't.

i think the fbi issues glocks in .40sw--model 22 i think.

the secret service i believe uses the sig p229 in .357sig. oddly enough that answer was in the kids faq section and not the regular part for us curious older folks.

i don't know what #5 was supposed to be but the state dept's diplomatic security folks are issued the sig p228 in 9mm.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 10:07:03 AM EDT
The FBI also issues the Smith 1076, P226 and Springfield Armory 1911s in more limited numbers. Navy SEALs reportedly like their P226s but have leeway to choose other designs.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 10:22:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 1:57:02 PM EDT by triburst1]

Originally Posted By L8models:
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare. I'm talking standard issue now.


1. US. Army (Navy, Coast Guard) ---Beretta M9?
2. US Navy Seals ----------?Sig P226 Navy
3. US Secret Service-------?I've seen both Sig P229 and midsize GLOCKs(probably G32)
4. FBI----------------------?GLOCK 22 and 23
5. Homeland Security------SIG 220R?
6. US Marshalls------------?GLOCK 22 and 23
7. NYPD-------------------Glock?Yep, G19
8. Chicago PD--------------?
9. LA PD--------------------?Beretta 92FS, GLOCK 17 and 19
10. Boston PD--------------?
11. Miami PD---------------?GLOCK, I think.
12. Metro-Dade PD---------?same as above


Link Posted: 3/28/2006 11:56:43 AM EDT
LAPD also uses the 4506.
DoS (DSS) is SIG 228/229 depending on when you got in.
USSS uses SIGs
MCSO (Sherrif Joe) uses whatever each officer wants.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 12:13:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
LAPD also uses the 4506.Only Vic Mackey
DoS (DSS) is SIG 228/229 depending on when you got in.
USSS uses SIGs
MCSO (Sherrif Joe) uses whatever each officer wants.

Link Posted: 3/28/2006 1:03:32 PM EDT
1) U.S Army:
Regular Units: M9 Beretta 92FS 9mm
Air Crews: M11 SIG P228 9mm?
Tank Units: SIG PRO 9mm?
2) U.S Navy SEALs:
H&K Mk.23 .45ACP, SIG P226 Navy 9mm
3) U.S Secret Service:
SIG P229 .357SIG?
4) F.B.I:
Field Agents: GLOCK 22/23 .40S&W?
SWAT: Springfield PRO 1911A1 .45ACP
5) San Francisco Police Dept: SIG P226R .40S&W
6) L.A.P.D:
Patrol Officers: GLOCK 22 .40S&W?
SWAT: Kimber Custom TLE II .45ACP
7) California Highway Patrol: S&W Model 4006 .40S&W
8) Oakland, CA Police Dept: GLOCK 22 .40S&W or GLOCK 17 9mm?
9) USMC SOC Units: Kimber Warrior .45ACP? Custom Built 1911A1s?
10) British Army: Hi-Power 9mm
11) N.J State Police: SIG P226 9mm?
12) Las Vegas Police: GLOCK 22 .40S&W?
13) Federal Air Marshals: SIG P229 .357SIG?
14) Pittsburg, PA Police: 1911A1 .45ACP? (Saw it on COPS)

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Link Posted: 3/28/2006 1:47:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By L8models:
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare. I'm talking standard issue now.



3. US Secret Service-------?I've seen both Sig P228 and midsize GLOCKs(probably G32)






Where did you see this?

USSS has Sig P229 in .357Sig for about the last 8 years. Prior was the P228 in 9mm.

FBI has the Glock .40 and the Springfield for SWAT/HRT
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 1:56:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By goloud:

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By L8models:
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare. I'm talking standard issue now.



3. US Secret Service-------?I've seen both Sig P228 and midsize GLOCKs(probably G32)






Where did you see this?

USSS has Sig P229 in .357Sig for about the last 8 years. Prior was the P228 in 9mm.

FBI has the Glock .40 and the Springfield for SWAT/HRT



I meant to type P229, not P228. The GLOCKs I saw were carried by USSS agents during a local counterfeiting investigtation. I'm guessing they were carrying the 32 based on the fact that the P229s are .357SIG.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 2:05:16 PM EDT
US Border Patrol carries the HK P2000 in .40 S&W
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 2:07:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
US Border Patrol carries the HK P2000 in .40 S&W



Poor bastards.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 2:12:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
US Border Patrol carries the HK P2000 in .40 S&W



Poor bastards.



Better than the Berreta in .40 S&W they had before.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 2:26:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
US Border Patrol carries the HK P2000 in .40 S&W



Poor bastards.



It gets the job done. Never understood why the opted for a semi-compact firearm though.

Being an HK guy, I'd much rather carry a USP F. Any caliber would be fine. But I'd feel just as good with one of those on my belt.

Good friend of mine who just graduated BUD/s and is currently in VA has seen quite a few USP Tacticals around, and likes it the most out of what they have readily available to them. However, he was trained on the 226 and said he was very comfortable with it. When I let him shoot mine, I could tell
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 2:36:41 PM EDT
DHS/Air Marshalls carry Sig 229s with .357 Sig Gold Dots

What I'm told by somebody who claims to be a DHS agent.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 3:02:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Marksman14:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
US Border Patrol carries the HK P2000 in .40 S&W



Poor bastards.



It gets the job done. Never understood why the opted for a semi-compact firearm though.

Being an HK guy, I'd much rather carry a USP F. Any caliber would be fine. But I'd feel just as good with one of those on my belt.

Good friend of mine who just graduated BUD/s and is currently in VA has seen quite a few USP Tacticals around, and likes it the most out of what they have readily available to them. However, he was trained on the 226 and said he was very comfortable with it. When I let him shoot mine, I could tell



Same reason dept's issue Glock 19's. They are big enough to be accepted as a standard service weapon.

I have the mits for a .45F, but not everyone does. 19's and the P2000 fit these people much better.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 4:26:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By goloud:

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By L8models:
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare. I'm talking standard issue now.



3. US Secret Service-------?I've seen both Sig P228 and midsize GLOCKs(probably G32)






Where did you see this?

USSS has Sig P229 in .357Sig for about the last 8 years. Prior was the P228 in 9mm.

FBI has the Glock .40 and the Springfield for SWAT/HRT



I meant to type P229, not P228. The GLOCKs I saw were carried by USSS agents during a local counterfeiting investigtation. I'm guessing they were carrying the 32 based on the fact that the P229s are .357SIG.



No Glocks in use by the USSS. Sigs only.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 4:59:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 5:15:48 PM EDT by triburst1]

Originally Posted By goloud:

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By goloud:

Originally Posted By triburst1:

Originally Posted By L8models:
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare. I'm talking standard issue now.



3. US Secret Service-------?I've seen both Sig P228 and midsize GLOCKs(probably G32)






Where did you see this?

USSS has Sig P229 in .357Sig for about the last 8 years. Prior was the P228 in 9mm.

FBI has the Glock .40 and the Springfield for SWAT/HRT



I meant to type P229, not P228. The GLOCKs I saw were carried by USSS agents during a local counterfeiting investigtation. I'm guessing they were carrying the 32 based on the fact that the P229s are .357SIG.



No Glocks in use by the USSS. Sigs only.



I was just going on what I've seen and was told. I saw the two guys in suits carrying GLOCKS with one of our local detectives. I was told by another detective that they were USSS and were there investigating a counterfeiting operation. Two days later I read about the bust in the newspaper. Does FBI investigate counterfeiting? Maybe the detective was mistaken.[shrugs]
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:37:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VBC:
DHS/Air Marshalls carry Sig 229s with .357 Sig Gold Dots

What I'm told by somebody who claims to be a DHS agent.



the federal air marshals carry the sig pro but i am not sure which model or caliber. also they fire frangible ammo so as not to put holes in the plane or other people etc.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:46:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By aaronrb204:

Originally Posted By VBC:
DHS/Air Marshalls carry Sig 229s with .357 Sig Gold Dots

What I'm told by somebody who claims to be a DHS agent.



the federal air marshals carry the sig pro but i am not sure which model or caliber. also they fire frangible ammo so as not to put holes in the plane or other people etc.



VBC had it right the first time. Sig P229 in .357. "Regular" LEO rounds.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:43:30 PM EDT
Air Marshals uses regular Gold Dots, not frangible rounds.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:04:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2006 9:04:35 PM EDT by ALPHAGHOST]
border patrol is getting some HKs and Sigs i think....all in .40sw

GPD is getting G22s
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:35:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:46:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By delta-1:
What do other militaries use
Spanish?
Canadian?
Russian?<­BR>Australian?
And so on...



my guess is that they all use the 9mm, except for the russians who i think are still using the 9x18.....
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 9:59:58 PM EDT
I heard the coasties were transitioning to a Siggy in .40 short & weak.
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 10:06:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By delta-1:
What do other militaries useh?Canadian?
Russian?
Australian?
And so on...



my guess is that they all use the 9mm, except for the russians who i think are still using the 9x18.....



I was wondering if someone could make a list of all the sidearms (makes and models) that other militaries use in the world if possible
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:42:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By delta-1:

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:

Originally Posted By delta-1:
What do other militaries use
Spanish?
Canadian?
Russian?<­BR>Australian?
And so on...



my guess is that they all use the 9mm, except for the russians who i think are still using the 9x18.....



I was wondering if someone could make a list of all the sidearms (makes and models) that other militaries use in the world if possible



do it yourself here
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:50:14 AM EDT
The Canadians and Aussies use the Browning Hi Power.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:52:29 AM EDT
It's a decent resource.

The problem is, he doesn't really list what countries the weapons are in service in. He'll talk about who built them and maybe mention in the history if someone bought large numbers of them. So, it's easy to figure out what China is using, because they make their own weapons. But some smaller countries import designs, so they are much harder to figure out. A google search can probably help you with them.

Also, part of the problem is that many countries like the US may use many weapons. I know the US military uses at least 4 different handguns. And I just read an article in one of the gun magazines that a department in the Army just ordered a bunch of the new Ruger .45s (like 5,000 of them or something.)

As for police departments. Most of the larger ones has some sort of public affairs office that you can call. Tell them you have a few questions about the equipment they use and an officer should be able to answer your questions.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:53:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By L8models:
I'm just interested in what handguns each of these organizations are issued. I find it interesting to compare.


1. US. Army Beretta 92
2. US Navy Seals HK USP, Beretta 92, some SIG pistol
3. US Secret Service
4. FBI S&W
5.

Link Posted: 3/29/2006 3:56:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/29/2006 4:03:30 AM EDT by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By Fglocker_Plz:
1) U.S Army:
Regular Units: M9 Beretta 92FS 9mm
Air Crews: M11 SIG P228 9mm?
Tank Units: SIG PRO 9mm?



Oh hell no...

Regular: M9, if anything. In many cases, no sidearm.

Air Crew: M9 for flight status, special duties, and for the higher ranking folks. M16s/M4s for most ground personell (not all aviation MOSes - and not all those who are in a 'Crew Chief' MOS actually fly. If you don't fly, you get a 'normal' weapon - in my case a M249). At least one Apache pilot in Iraq was quoted as trading weapons with one of his ground crew so he could have a M16....

Armor: M4 & M9 (2 each per Abrams)... Some find a way to get 4 rifles....


The M11 is for some MPs and REMFs...

The SIG PRO is not issued.
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 4:05:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/29/2006 4:05:41 AM EDT by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By pfccypret:
It's a decent resource.

The problem is, he doesn't really list what countries the weapons are in service in. He'll talk about who built them and maybe mention in the history if someone bought large numbers of them. So, it's easy to figure out what China is using, because they make their own weapons. But some smaller countries import designs, so they are much harder to figure out. A google search can probably help you with them.

Also, part of the problem is that many countries like the US may use many weapons. I know the US military uses at least 4 different handguns. And I just read an article in one of the gun magazines that a department in the Army just ordered a bunch of the new Ruger .45s (like 5,000 of them or something.)

As for police departments. Most of the larger ones has some sort of public affairs office that you can call. Tell them you have a few questions about the equipment they use and an officer should be able to answer your questions.



US Army is testing a possible new handgun to replace the Beretta...

At present, they issue 3 handguns:

Beretta 92 - pretty much everybody authorized a pistol.
SIG - some cops & other 'select' individuals
HK Mk23 - SF/SOCOM, as needed
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 4:13:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By goloud:

Originally Posted By aaronrb204:

Originally Posted By VBC:
DHS/Air Marshalls carry Sig 229s with .357 Sig Gold Dots

What I'm told by somebody who claims to be a DHS agent.



the federal air marshals carry the sig pro but i am not sure which model or caliber. also they fire frangible ammo so as not to put holes in the plane or other people etc.



VBC had it right the first time. Sig P229 in .357. "Regular" LEO rounds.



i am just going by a couple of articles i read about the federal air marshal service in the months following 9/11. unfortunately i can't find them online or any info about duty weapons on dhs, dot, etc etc.

and as far as the army having purchased 5000 rugers they were the p95 and are chambered in 9mm. they also bought 5000 sw sigmas and 5000 sigs i think. they were for use by the iraqi police/army not united states personnel.
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