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Posted: 1/23/2006 3:09:08 PM EDT
I found this doing a Yahoo! search for "Metal Storm"




source... in czech
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:15:22 PM EDT
Phased plasma...........

Think Its a pistol(duh) using some sort of eletromagnitic thingamajiggy to send the bullets downrange, think, Small railgun

*This reply is a complete and utter wildguess*
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:30:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 3:33:03 PM EDT by USAF_Hop_N_Pop]
Looks like something along the metalstorm concept. I've never seen a pistol like that, but that's what it reminds me of.

linky

ETA: Whoops! looks like you already picked up on that.... i just looked at the pictures and didnt pay attention to the fact that you already had the metal storm idea..
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 3:33:19 PM EDT
This looks likes glock's version of a 1911 longslide.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 4:11:33 PM EDT
Could it be some sort of prototype of the dreaded "Personalized Handgun"?

2003 source 2005 announcement

Metal Storm Adds Handgun Manufacturer To 'Personalised Handgun' Team

Published November 27, 2003 9:00 am


Taurus International Manufacturing to build platform for electronic handgun with dynamic grip recognition

BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA – 26 November 2003: Metal Storm Limited (ASX trading code: MST and NASDAQ Small Cap ticker symbol: MTSX)

Metal Storm Limited (Metal Storm), New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), and Taurus International Manufacturing (Taurus) announced today they had signed a collaboration memorandum with the goal of developing and bringing to market a ‘personalised’ handgun that electronically recognises pre-authorised individual users.

“The inclusion of Taurus is a significant step forward in our efforts to commercialise the O’Dwyer VLe® handgun,” said Charles Vehlow, Metal Storm’s Chief Executive Officer. “We are excited to leverage Taurus’ experience and reputation as a leading manufacturer of handguns. Their participation is essential to our project with NJIT and reinforces our commitment to create a handgun that offers increased control and security. Taurus’ established world-wide distribution network offers opportunities beyond those of the US mandated ‘Safe Gun’ market such as international and domestic law enforcement and civilian markets.”

The partnering furthers progress made by Metal Storm and NJIT to jointly build a firearm that meets the mandated personalised handgun legislation New Jersey established in December 2002. Taurus International Manufacturing and Forjas Taurus in Brazil will integrate Metal Storm’s O’Dwyer VLe® handgun Electronic Firing System and NJIT’s developed and patented Dynamic Grip Recognition (DGR) biometric authorising technology into a total handgun package. The goal is to complete a prototype featuring an electronic weapon that instantly and reliably recognises authorised operators by means of pre-programmed grip patterns.

“We are delighted to include Taurus into our development team,” said Dr Donald H Sebastian, Vice President for research and development at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), Newark. “The addition of a commercial producer to our team is vital to ensuring that our design reflects the combined influences of efficient manufacturing practice and consumer preferences. By working prototype and commercial product design in parallel we will shorten the development cycle.”

“Having the opportunity to partner Taurus firearms advanced engineering with the New Jersey Institute of Technology and Metal Storm Limited, presents the firearms world with a combined wealth of forward seeing science that will likely revolutionise ballistics, solid state technology and specific user identification,” said Robert G Morrison, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc. Each partner has individually developed methodology that combined will provide an extraordinary shooting system that will forever change the course of firearms technology both in scope and flexibility.”

Further announcements will be made as detailed terms of the collaboration are finalised.



Looks like a good reason for the NJ members to hate anything to do with Metal Storm. IIRC as soon as a handgun company, in this case Taurus, develops a personalized handgun that's 90%? effective NJ will require all handguns being sold in the state to have this technology incorporated... in other words no more "real" handguns for NJ folks.
Link Posted: 1/23/2006 5:37:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
Could it be some sort of prototype of the dreaded "Personalized Handgun"?

2003 source 2005 announcement

Metal Storm Adds Handgun Manufacturer To 'Personalised Handgun' Team

Published November 27, 2003 9:00 am


Taurus International Manufacturing to build platform for electronic handgun with dynamic grip recognition

BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA – 26 November 2003: Metal Storm Limited (ASX trading code: MST and NASDAQ Small Cap ticker symbol: MTSX)

Metal Storm Limited (Metal Storm), New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), and Taurus International Manufacturing (Taurus) announced today they had signed a collaboration memorandum with the goal of developing and bringing to market a ‘personalised’ handgun that electronically recognises pre-authorised individual users.

“The inclusion of Taurus is a significant step forward in our efforts to commercialise the O’Dwyer VLe® handgun,” said Charles Vehlow, Metal Storm’s Chief Executive Officer. “We are excited to leverage Taurus’ experience and reputation as a leading manufacturer of handguns. Their participation is essential to our project with NJIT and reinforces our commitment to create a handgun that offers increased control and security. Taurus’ established world-wide distribution network offers opportunities beyond those of the US mandated ‘Safe Gun’ market such as international and domestic law enforcement and civilian markets.”

The partnering furthers progress made by Metal Storm and NJIT to jointly build a firearm that meets the mandated personalised handgun legislation New Jersey established in December 2002. Taurus International Manufacturing and Forjas Taurus in Brazil will integrate Metal Storm’s O’Dwyer VLe® handgun Electronic Firing System and NJIT’s developed and patented Dynamic Grip Recognition (DGR) biometric authorising technology into a total handgun package. The goal is to complete a prototype featuring an electronic weapon that instantly and reliably recognises authorised operators by means of pre-programmed grip patterns.

“We are delighted to include Taurus into our development team,” said Dr Donald H Sebastian, Vice President for research and development at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), Newark. “The addition of a commercial producer to our team is vital to ensuring that our design reflects the combined influences of efficient manufacturing practice and consumer preferences. By working prototype and commercial product design in parallel we will shorten the development cycle.”

“Having the opportunity to partner Taurus firearms advanced engineering with the New Jersey Institute of Technology and Metal Storm Limited, presents the firearms world with a combined wealth of forward seeing science that will likely revolutionise ballistics, solid state technology and specific user identification,” said Robert G Morrison, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc. Each partner has individually developed methodology that combined will provide an extraordinary shooting system that will forever change the course of firearms technology both in scope and flexibility.”

Further announcements will be made as detailed terms of the collaboration are finalised.



Looks like a good reason for the NJ members to hate anything to do with Metal Storm. IIRC as soon as a handgun company, in this case Taurus, develops a personalized handgun that's 90%? effective NJ will require all handguns being sold in the state to have this technology incorporated... in other words no more "real" handguns for NJ folks.



Yup, been watching the story this company for a while.

Metal Storm is also working closely with the NJIT, which received a 1 million dollar grant to work on this project.

I will never, repeat never own a Taurus product. That said, Colt is also working on their version as well.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:17:32 AM EDT
in the scematic doesn't it look like it is loaded with 2 calibers?
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 4:25:54 AM EDT
It's really sad that there are firearms companies that are actually willing to shoot themselves in the foot by creating this kind of garbage. If Colt or Taurus actually makes a semi-reliable tey wil be putting themselves out of a lot of business. If NJ sucessfully implements this BS, you can be sure other states like Kali will follow. Sad really.


Originally Posted By aaronrb204:
in the scematic doesn't it look like it is loaded with 2 calibers?



Yeah, kinda. I thought those were magnets or something that is part of the propulsion of the rounds.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:08:36 AM EDT
They had that thing on the history channel I cant remember what show it was. The maker said something about a officer could have the ability to shoot lethal & non lethal rounds out of the same gun through a multi barrel system. "Yeah oops sorry sir your sons dead, I thought I had it set on stun"
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 7:14:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HunterGren:
They had that thing on the history channel I cant remember what show it was. The maker said something about a officer could have the ability to shoot lethal & non lethal rounds out of the same gun through a multi barrel system. "Yeah oops sorry sir your sons dead, I thought I had it set on stun"



If non-lethal is so important why don't they just issue them all Airsoft.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 8:25:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
Could it be some sort of prototype of the dreaded "Personalized Handgun"?

2003 source 2005 announcement

Metal Storm Adds Handgun Manufacturer To 'Personalised Handgun' Team

Published November 27, 2003 9:00 am


Taurus International Manufacturing to build platform for electronic handgun with dynamic grip recognition

BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA – 26 November 2003: Metal Storm Limited (ASX trading code: MST and NASDAQ Small Cap ticker symbol: MTSX)

Metal Storm Limited (Metal Storm), New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), and Taurus International Manufacturing (Taurus) announced today they had signed a collaboration memorandum with the goal of developing and bringing to market a ‘personalised’ handgun that electronically recognises pre-authorised individual users.

“The inclusion of Taurus is a significant step forward in our efforts to commercialise the O’Dwyer VLe® handgun,” said Charles Vehlow, Metal Storm’s Chief Executive Officer. “We are excited to leverage Taurus’ experience and reputation as a leading manufacturer of handguns. Their participation is essential to our project with NJIT and reinforces our commitment to create a handgun that offers increased control and security. Taurus’ established world-wide distribution network offers opportunities beyond those of the US mandated ‘Safe Gun’ market such as international and domestic law enforcement and civilian markets.”

The partnering furthers progress made by Metal Storm and NJIT to jointly build a firearm that meets the mandated personalised handgun legislation New Jersey established in December 2002. Taurus International Manufacturing and Forjas Taurus in Brazil will integrate Metal Storm’s O’Dwyer VLe® handgun Electronic Firing System and NJIT’s developed and patented Dynamic Grip Recognition (DGR) biometric authorising technology into a total handgun package. The goal is to complete a prototype featuring an electronic weapon that instantly and reliably recognises authorised operators by means of pre-programmed grip patterns.

“We are delighted to include Taurus into our development team,” said Dr Donald H Sebastian, Vice President for research and development at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), Newark. “The addition of a commercial producer to our team is vital to ensuring that our design reflects the combined influences of efficient manufacturing practice and consumer preferences. By working prototype and commercial product design in parallel we will shorten the development cycle.”

“Having the opportunity to partner Taurus firearms advanced engineering with the New Jersey Institute of Technology and Metal Storm Limited, presents the firearms world with a combined wealth of forward seeing science that will likely revolutionise ballistics, solid state technology and specific user identification,” said Robert G Morrison, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Taurus International Manufacturing, Inc. Each partner has individually developed methodology that combined will provide an extraordinary shooting system that will forever change the course of firearms technology both in scope and flexibility.”

Further announcements will be made as detailed terms of the collaboration are finalised.



Looks like a good reason for the NJ members to hate anything to do with Metal Storm. IIRC as soon as a handgun company, in this case Taurus, develops a personalized handgun that's 90%? effective NJ will require all handguns being sold in the state to have this technology incorporated... in other words no more "real" handguns for NJ folks.



Wouldn't a gun like this mean you would be unable to sell/buy one without going through a FFL (who I assume would have a personalization thingamabob). That doesn't sound good......
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 8:34:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DWFAN:


Yup, been watching the story this company for a while.

Metal Storm is also working closely with the NJIT, which received a 1 million dollar grant to work on this project.



I will never, repeat never own a Taurus product. That said, Colt is also working on their version as well.



I have now changed my mind about buying a Taurus pistol... I didn't like Colt anyway. Both have been blacklisted as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to do business with a manufacturer who is willing to put themselves out of business to please the antis.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 6:24:46 PM EDT

Old news, but even more dangerous because Corzine is now NJ's Governor

Shots fired at Bayonne range prove smart gun technology works
Sixty people crowded last week into a small room at the Bayonne police firing range to witness smart gun technology. Donald H. Sebastian, senior vice president of research and development at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), stood near an oversized screen displaying a real-time video of an NJIT policeman shooting an experimental handgun in an adjacent indoor range. Although there was no applause as shots rang out, the action demonstrated that smart gun knew friend from foe.
Sixteen electronic computerized sensors embedded in the gun's grip distinguished known from unknown users. "We've only just begun and we're pleased to say that we're getting 90 percent reliability when scanning users," said Sebastian.

Since 1999, Sebastian has led the project based upon Dynamic Grip Recognition, a technology invented by Michael Recce, PhD, associate professor of information systems at NJIT. Since June of 2004, five members of the NJIT police force have been trained to use the test gun and be recognized. Ultimately computerized sensors in each gun will record data on dozens of known users while also blocking unauthorized users.

The project has the enthusiastic backing of Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg and Jon S. Corzine
. In addition to proudly witnessing the technology, the pair announced last week that, once again, they had secured $1 million in federal funding for the project. Last year, they secured a similar amount. The funding was included in this year's U.S. Department of Justice budget. Reps. Robert Menendez and William Pascrell, who have also supported the research and sought federal appropriations, also spoke, as did NJIT President Robert A. Altenkirch and Bayonne Mayor and State Senator Joseph Doria, an early New Jersey legislative supporter.

Under New Jersey law, passed in Dec. 2002, only smart guns can be purchased in the state three years after personalized handguns become commercially available. Lautenberg said New Jersey's legislative effort to introduce smart gun technology should be a national model for the country. Once Congress returns to session next year, Lautenberg and Pascrell plan to introduce legislation modeled after New Jersey's law, so families across the country will be able to ensure that guns they own will not fall into the wrong hands.

The demonstration included a description of how the technology works. "Everyone has body features that are unique signatures," said Sebastian. "Fingerprints and retinas number among the best known markers. Identifying a person by such attributes is called the science of biometrics."

Another form of biometric--the dynamic biometric--depends on both physical markers and behavior. "This is about who you are and how you do something." said Sebastian. This biometric is the foundation of Dynamic Grip Recognition. The technology measures not only the size, strength and structure of a person's hand, but also the reflexive way in which the person acts. For smart gun, the observed actions are how the person squeezes something to produce a unique and measurable pattern. Embedded sensors in the experimental gun then can read and record the size and force of the users' hand during the first second when the trigger is squeezed.

"This technology is similar to how electronic machines read an individual's signature upon completing a credit card transaction," said Sebastian.

The next step is for NJIT researchers to turn over their invention to the Australian-based research and development company Metal Storm Ltd.. Currently January of 2006 is the target date. Metal Storm will then incorporate the NJIT technology into their patented electronic handgun, as NJIT researchers continue testing.

"NJIT is doing pioneering research to make a firearm that can save thousands of innocent lives," said Lautenberg during the demonstration. "On any given day people across the country can turn on their TV news or read in their local paper the sad story of a child taking another child's life because they got their hands on a loaded gun. However, we know now that these deaths can be prevented – or at least reduced – through technology that will render a gun inoperable in the hands of the wrong user."

Corzine called the NJIT's dynamic-grip technology cutting edge and said that it represented a really positive step forward in public safety. "NJIT is involved in important life-saving research," he added. "There is no question that manufacturing handguns with advanced technology to limit operation can save lives. No child could pick up a gun and pull the trigger. The gun just won't work, and that's how it should be."

Menendez said that by making handguns operable only by authorized users, many gun deaths can be avoided. Pascrell said he looked forward to introducing legislation in the 108th Congress similar to the legislation in New Jersey.

Since 1999, NJIT has spearheaded efforts to develop a personalized handgun that can instantly and reliably recognize one or more pre-programmed authorized users. To date, the New Jersey legislature has awarded NJIT $1.5 million for the project.

In 2003, Recce received a patent for Dynamic Grip Recognition. The invention enabled NJIT electrical engineering professor Timothy Chang, assisted by a team of engineers, to embed multiple small electronic sensors in the grip. The sensors identify the user. The finished gun will eventually feature both electronic features and computerized parts. Recce sees his invention someday also being used in other applications--perhaps the yoke of a plane or a car's steering wheel.

Also in 2003, NJIT signed an agreement with Metal Storm, which owns a patent for its Electronic Firing System that can be used in a handgun. Metal Storm's O'DwyerTM VLe® system is a unique, patented approach to firing projectiles. Entirely electronic, the system utilizes preloaded barrels holding multiple projectiles that are fired by electronic ignition. For the first time, interchangeable and multiple barrels can be made available to fire a range of projectiles of varying calibers from the same handgun.

Link Posted: 1/25/2006 9:21:15 AM EDT

Under New Jersey law, passed in Dec. 2002, only smart guns can be purchased in the state three years after personalized handguns become commercially available. Lautenberg said New Jersey's legislative effort to introduce smart gun technology should be a national model for the country. Once Congress returns to session next year, Lautenberg and Pascrell plan to introduce legislation modeled after New Jersey's law, so families across the country will be able to ensure that guns they own will not fall into the wrong hands.


Quoted from the above quote...

Also to add, who is to say that a "hacker" doesn't phuck with the recognition and crack the thing?
Anything that can be built, can be un-built.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 10:11:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BLY:
Also to add, who is to say that a "hacker" doesn't phuck with the recognition and crack the thing?
Anything that can be built, can be un-built.



I think you give the common asshat thief a little too much credit. Most of them don't even know how to hold a gun correctly...
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 7:26:20 AM EDT
That stuff doesn't work. It can be faked. That's how they framed Judge Dredd.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 8:10:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DarkKnight:
That stuff doesn't work. It can be faked. That's how they framed Judge Dredd.



No... Judge Rico had the same DNA as Dread... they were created from the same DNA cocktail.

This is different.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 11:59:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DWFAN:
"We've only just begun and we're pleased to say that we're getting 90 percent reliability when scanning users," said Sebastian.




That's what I want, a gun that works 90% of the time, when I need it.

Link Posted: 2/2/2006 6:41:11 AM EDT

The real kicker in all of this nonsense is the fact that a so-called "SMART GUN", doesn't even have come into the state of NJ for this law to become active.

The way that the law is written, if EVEN ONE SMART GUN IS ACCEPTED BY ANY FFL DEALER IN THE COUNTRY, THE NJ ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS 6 MONTHS TO ENACT THE LAW.

What's even better is that the newly appointed NJ Attorney General has had 4 BENCH WARRANTS for her arrest stemming from 13 UNPAID MOVING VIOLATIONS INFRACTIONS, and you guessed it, is extremely anti-gun.
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 7:11:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DWFAN:
The real kicker in all of this nonsense is the fact that a so-called "SMART GUN", doesn't even have come into the state of NJ for this law to become active.

The way that the law is written, if EVEN ONE SMART GUN IS ACCEPTED BY ANY FFL DEALER IN THE COUNTRY, THE NJ ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS 6 MONTHS TO ENACT THE LAW.

What's even better is that the newly appointed NJ Attorney General has had 4 BENCH WARRANTS for her arrest stemming from 13 UNPAID MOVING VIOLATIONS INFRACTIONS, and you guessed it, is extremely anti-gun.



Now once the AG enacts it, I was under the impression that every new handgun sold in NJ from that point on has to have some sort of "smart" technology built into it... essentially banning the sale of all guns in NJ. I seriously doubt any company (including Taurus and Colt) will integrate this BS technology into their current line of firearms. At best thy might have some sort of idiotic retrofit thing that replaces the grips or something... but I seriously doubt that.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 11:47:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:

Originally Posted By DWFAN:
The real kicker in all of this nonsense is the fact that a so-called "SMART GUN", doesn't even have come into the state of NJ for this law to become active.

The way that the law is written, if EVEN ONE SMART GUN IS ACCEPTED BY ANY FFL DEALER IN THE COUNTRY, THE NJ ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS 6 MONTHS TO ENACT THE LAW.

What's even better is that the newly appointed NJ Attorney General has had 4 BENCH WARRANTS for her arrest stemming from 13 UNPAID MOVING VIOLATIONS INFRACTIONS, and you guessed it, is extremely anti-gun.



Now once the AG enacts it, I was under the impression that every new handgun sold in NJ from that point on has to have some sort of "smart" technology built into it... essentially banning the sale of all guns in NJ. I seriously doubt any company (including Taurus and Colt) will integrate this BS technology into their current line of firearms. At best thy might have some sort of idiotic retrofit thing that replaces the grips or something... but I seriously doubt that.



Unfortunately you are correct. It's an independent company.

http://www.spid2002.com/

I didn't hotlink it on purpose.

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