[ARCHIVED THREAD] - XD vs Glock (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/18/2005 2:26:06 PM EDT
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I had planned to get a Glock. My mind was all made up. Then someone mentioned the XD so I went and checked one out at the shop. Man does that fit my hand. Here is my quesiton, how does it compare to the Glock in durability? This is going to be my primary range pistol(all my other hand guns are either hunting,target or C&R). This is going to for blasting lots of tin cans, dirt clods and the dangerous clay pigeonhe What are the pros and cons of each? Thanks! |
XD is less expensive (pro) and has a grip safety (could go either way, depending on your personal POV). IIRC, there was a rust issue - but I believe that has been addressed. (con, if not) Glock has been around longer & in greater numbers (pro IMHO) and it's finish is incredibly durable (pro). There are lots of KB stories (con, when true) and there are testaments to its robust nature like THIS one, my favorite (pro). And LarryG should be along soon to tell you how horrible Glock is re: "ballistic fingerprinting"...  Bottom line: Shoot them both if you can - for most people it comes down to a matter of how they each fit individual hands or a matter of finances (sometimes both). There are plenty of people here both with Glocks and with XDs who are perfectly happy with their respective choices. And (don't take this personally) you might want to do a simple SEARCH - this question gets asked at least once a week here.  (FWIW, I like the feel of the XD but can't stand the grip safety - YMMV. FTR, I own a G19 [my primary carry/concealment gun for more than ten years], 2 G17s and 2 G21s.  )
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Shoot both, buy what works best for you. I have 7,000 rounds through an XD9 with no real problems. I did break the cocked indicator pin when I stove piped a round and slammed the slide forward with my palm. But it has shot very well for me and I get better groups with it than the Glock. Again, shoot both and buy want works for you. Both are good guns. |
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Austria =more$$$$$$$$$$ Croatia=less$$$ I own an XD-9 and IMO it's an excellent handgun. I would consider buying a Glock later on when I have money to spend(I'd probably get a 21 first). I would never ever buy a 40S&W Glock. Glocks have insufficient chamber support for such a high pressure round. So to summarize If you get a 9mm - XD-9 or a Glock 17, 19; personal preference being the deciding factor. 40S&W- definately an XD 
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Ok, here is my standard XD song and dance. I have the xd-40. The grip angle on the Glock for me sucks, big time. The XD has the same grip angle / shape as the 1911 and High Power. The sights on the XD are metal and the same config as Sig sights so there are lots of options for aftermarket sights. It is very safe, grip, trigger and firing pin safetys. You pretty much have to grip the gun and pull the trigger for it to go bang. It has a cocked indicator on the back of the slide and a loaded indicator on the top of the slide just aft of the ejection port. Both are visual and tactile. One swipe of the hand accross the slid and you know if you are ready to roll or not. The acc rail is of Glock config, so there are plenty of lights lasers and do dads for that. The mags are high quality stainless and drop free. Take down is like a Sig, Very easy and quick. The trigger is single action and leaps and bounds over the Glock trigger. The more you fire the thing the better the trigger gets. Every Glock I have fired reminded me of a toy gun's trigger pull. The barrel is a very well done hammer forged and fully supported chamber. The XD's I have seen and esp mine, have been very accurate. The chamber support was enough of an issue for me not to buy the Glock in the first place. The XD has conventional rifling, so you can shoot fmj or lead. The locking block is replacable via a couple of pins. If the locking block on a Glock is beaten up, you have to replace the frame. Checkering on the grip is well done, just rough enough without being uncomfortable. Here is an interesting tidbit. The recoil unit sticks out just a bit from the front of the slide, it is a stand off device. So you don't engage the disconnect when placing against the back of a head during ethnic cleansing. I have had mine for 3 years now. I love it. I sold a Sig 226 to a buddy and when my dealer made me a deal on it, I said why not for the price. It out shot my Sig easy and shoots as good or better than my 1911's. Most people that shoot it, after a few rounds to get used to the trigger, shoot very well with it on the first try. |
I'd still rather have a rusty XD than a new Glock. |
| It realy is personal pref and mine goes with Glock however I have a xd9mm on lay away which hopefully I will get this weekend. Maybe it is because I started with Glocks bit my G19 has never ever failed on me so I am partial. The Glocks fit my hand much better and point better for me but the liittle woman of the house liked the xd better so that is my next gun. However the one after that is a Glock. He He probably a .45 or .357sig |
Oh, I do hope some company out there begins to offer aftermarket sights for Glocks soon!
Hopefully Springfield has applied for the patent on this amazing feature! Also, people need to know that cocking indicators and loaded chamber indicators are not safeties.
Not that this should factor into anyone's purchase decision process, but the Glock's quicker.
It's single action in name only. A 1911, a cocked revolver - that's single action. Go ahead and watch the cocking indicator when you dry fire an XD - it travels backwards before it drops. Also, if by leaps and bounds you mean longer and with a horribly soft, indefinite reset when compared to a Glock - I agree 100%.
What? I think you're confusing Glock's with Beretta's there. I've never heard of anyone having worn out their locking block to the point where the frame had to be replaced. That's insane. |
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Handguns Magazine recently published an XD torture test. Can't remember the author's name, but he posts on hs2000talk.com, a board dedicated to XDs. Here's a thread about the torture test; hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=20502&highlight=torture The XD held up very well in a 20,000 round torture test. I've had my XD for about 16 months, and have around 3500 rounds out of it. It's showing some holster wear, but continues to eprform flawlessly. I had two stoppages in the first hundred rounds, none since. I had a Glock prior to getting the XD, but found that the XD fit my hand better, pointed much more naturally and was easier to make hits with. I'm very happy with mine, and if anything were to happen to it, would get another in a heartbeat.  |
This was an article by Chaim Stein in the June/July issue of Handguns Magazine. This was a very favorable review of the XD. Good reading. |
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Having owned both, I'd say they are on par with one another in terms of durability. The finish on the XD is on the soft side, but keep it out of a Kydex holster and you've already gone a long way to extending the finish life. My XD never rusted, and I think that is primarily due to the fact that I MAINTAIN my guns. My Glocks performed without flaw. Had some accuracy issues once, but that was corrected by eliminating crap ammo from the gun's diet. All things being equal, and in my book they are, I would give the Nod to the XD simply because the price is lower (not as low as when it was the HS200), and it just feels better in my hand than the Glock does. However, if someone were to offer one or the other to me for free, I might have a hard time picking between them, too. |
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hock.gifSorry guys, I should have done a search.hinking.gif I'm on a borrowed computer while I'm out of town helping out with some familoy issues. I'm not getting the time on the forum that I would like to do my research. Thanks for all the help, I geuss that I need to find a couple of loaners and shoot 'em. |
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had both. kept my xd. my glock failed<kb>. rust is not an issue if you properly treat it like you should ANY carry weapon. A light coat of clp every 2-3 month to remove sweat salts and it's a non issue. The xd points like a 1911 and that is a BIG plus if you shoot both. either way both are good weapons for the most part. |
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Shoot both if you can go with the one that shoots the best for you. One other thing to figure in. Used hicap Glock mags were selling for $9.99 each not too long ago. New hicap XD mags go for $20 to $30 each if you can find them. Something to consider but see above. I shot the XD9 at a manufacturers shoot, didn't do anything for me. I shoot my Glocks better. And always can find used Glocks for the same price or significantly cheaper price than XD's. I most recently picked up a used G17 gen 3 w/ night sights around the time the AW ended for $425.  The 17 is on the right. My old G21 (left) bought used in 1997 has over 6000rds through it with never ever a failure of any kind. |
I picked up two(all they had) hi caps for a 9mm for $17 at Academy. |
| I had the chance to finaly take my XD 9mm to the range today and of course I had to take the Glock along as well and my cheap pot metal should be embarresed to own Charles Daly Hi-Power clone with the new houge wrap arounds I put on it.. I wanted to take my Glock because Ihad to see if I was going to be an XD convert or go sell my XD and buy another Glock. Well of course I am keeping both Hehe. I liked the trigger on the XD better and that was about the only thing I liked BETTER on the XD. I still prefer the Glock sights and the size of my model 19 for carry and high cap factory mags seem eisier to come buy right now. The recoil system on the Gock seems simpler and I like simple because it is eisier to fix and less to break. Accuracy was the same and relability was the same however I did have my very first failure to feed in my Gock after 600rds. I do not know if it was me using a new mag or what but it only did it once and we shot the same ammo in after it happened. For the most part they are very much on the same level as each other. The ammo we used was some Cor-bon (Cn not remember wieght) and some 124gr GDHP +p and some of the Remington 100pak HPs and of course winchester white box as well as some CCI Independence 115 fmj. All in all they are both great pistols and could recomend either one. I almost forgot to add that my cheesy Charles Daly once again functioned perfectly and was more accurate than my Glock and XD. |
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Generally speaking, between the XD and Glock, there is no better or worse, only preference. Having owned both, I can say first hand that I prefer my Glock 19 to the XD9, but nothing about the XD felt or performed inferior to the Glock, the Glock just felt "right" in my hand. There are people that may prefer the XD feel. That doesnt make them stupid or misinformed, that just may be what their body reacts most naturally to. All a gun needs to be is reliable, and the XD is. Once a gun is determined as reliable choose what fits your hand and shoots best. The CZ P01 feels even better than the Glock in my hand, but that doesnt make the Glock a ****ty gun. Forget price, forget the name stamped on the side. Close your eyes and pick up the gun. Once you find what you respond naturally to, that is the gun you buy. It could be a SIG, Glock, 1911, HK, CZ, S&W. The name is no where near as important as what you prefer. |
Huh?? Your credibility just went down the toilet. GLOCK locking blocks are replaceable. Two pins and they come right out. Here's a pic of blocks of various vintage for various models: 
The locking block is what hits the frame when the frame flexes and creates the "slide peening" that is common on all GLOCKs. That has nothing to do with the rails molded into the frame (it's a non issue). Your bias in this thread seems awfully obvious to me. That's why I'm calling out your BS instead of politely pointing out a minor mistake on your part. |
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I have over 5k through my Glock this year, a combination of WWB, PMC, Blazer and Nato stuff. Oh throw some Ranger Talon into that mix as well. Not one failure. I manage to clean it every 1k rounds or so. Glocks have served my so well I haven't even considered an alternative like an XD. Not saying the XD is bad. I'm just saying the Glock is what serves me best. |
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My wife has the XD40 the XD has more to offer for our particular situation. I'm a reloader and go through alot of cast lead if I ever take up loading the .40 it will definitely make for a cheaper diet than FMJ ammo does. The XD40 can also be converted to 9mm with a simple barrel swap for even cheaper plinking. We're into our 2nd thousand rounds through the XD and the only malfunction was from reloads that were too oversized to fit in the chamber. ( miwall bulk reloads ) The glock enjoys a capacity edge over the XD and has more accessories/holsters to fit. Glocks have a more durable finish but Springfield's customer service will take care of you if you're unhappy with the finish. Personally I'm happy with the choice of the XD over glock. There would be less of an issue for 9mm though than .40 pistols. I've had a bad experience with a G22, I'm done with them. I'm actually thinking about a G17 though but not for the pistol itself, Oly makes a glock mag lower for 9mm and the 33(?) round mags are readily available. It would make a decent pair of 9mm plinkers if that's anything for you to consider. The XD40/XD9 pistols are a great bargain, as they gain in popularity the price will likely go up. Holsters and other accessories are trickling in but they've got a long way to go to catch up. And I like the grip safety and angle. |
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they are both great guns but they each lack something that the other has [banghea]--stupid companies if the XD had the tenifer treatment and .45acp loading and glock mags --that would be the perfect gun i hate the glock hump and lack of a safety i wonder, has anyone hacked off that annoying hump off subcompact glocks with a saw and see how it feels in the hand? 
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I carried a glock 22 on duty as an LEO for years. I shot distinguished expert with it my first day qualifying with it. the PD I worked for had all our Glocks modified to the "New York trigger". after that my accuracy degraded just slightly. I think i've put over 2000 rnds thru my G22 with no probs whatsoever. Recently I bought an XD subcompact for concealed carry due to all the hype. I absolutely love it to death. I shoot better with it than my Glock. By now i've probably fired 1000 rounds thru it, so far no hiccups. The added safety features are excellent for CC. Just yesterday I bought myself the 5" tactical model to go with it. Glock or XD-both great guns you can bet your life on, but for me, I prefer the XD. |
| I have a glock 19 and a XD40. I like the glock's trigger. I'm too nice to my pistols to ever report on durability, though the XD's lower metal pieces seem a lot sturdier. I like the glock. This talk of who's better Austrians or Croats seems kind of silly. They are both sweet pistols. |
Every time the guy posts he shows off how little he knows. I gave up on responding when he mentioned "the two switches" on a Glock. A lot of XD fans are like this - not all - but enough to hurt the reputation of what is an otherwise excellent handgun (but it still ain't no Glock). |
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OK guys, Since I don't know what I am talking aobut, here is a link to the very problem I am talking about. glocktalk.com/sitemap/topic/365308-1.html Notice half way down, he states he had to send the frame in, where Glock scribed his ser no on a new frame and trashed his. My mistake was calling it the locking block. It is actually the frame rail that is molded into the frame. On the XD the frame rails and the locking block are one unit that can be replaced. And you are right, I do have a bias, for the XD becuase I like its features better. I never stated anywhere I thought the Glock is a bad weapon. I think it is a great weapon, but I like the XD better, even with its lesser finish. So Whatever dudes. Take your lack of knowledge on your own guns and stick it. |