Posted: 5/1/2005 7:09:20 PM EDT
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I am trying to see how accurate i can shoot a few different pistols. I was thinking off of sand bags would be the best but am interested to hear tips from the pros! Would I use a normal two hand hold or single off the bag. I know about breathing and slow squeeze of the trigger without jerking. Will resting the front end of the pistol on a sand bag add stress and decrease accuracy as is the case with rifles? Will be shooting a glock 35 (40S&W), Springfield XD Subcompact in 40S&W, Glock 27 (Sub compact 40S&W) and Glock 21 (fullsize 9mm) |
The only problem with the ransom rest in the case of auto pistols is the rest locates off the frame, the gun is sighted off the slide. If the slide to barrel interface is constant but the frame to slide interface is not, then the gun will be more accurate by good sighted fire rather than holding the grip frame in a constant position as the Ransom rest does. For revolvers this is not an issue of course. Kent |
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Ploymer frame guns do not, as a rule, perform very well in a Ransom Rest. The natually occurring flex in the ploymer frame is made worse by the ridgity of the rest. Best results can usually be obtained by firing them over a sandbag. Regarding the interface(?) or fit between the slide and the frame on metal framed guns, as long as the barrel locks up the same each time, it is not a problem. While a nicely fit slide/frame can help in getting the best accuracy, it is not the most important. As a side note it is much more important on a pistol with a frame mounted scope or dot, then one with slide mounted sights. One of the things a ransom rest does is eliminate the sights and sight picture from the process. It also removes grip, grip pressure, and trigger control from influencing the results. Thats why ransom rests are used for complete gun accuracy testing. Also keep in mind, mechincal accuracy and practical accuracy can be two different things, with practical accuracy being the more important of the two for most shooters. Bob Hostetter Bar Sto Pistols |
Main Entry: 1in·ter·face Pronunciation: 'in-t&r-"fAs Function: noun 1 : a surface forming a common boundary of two bodies, spaces, or phases <an oil-water interface> 2 a : the place at which independent and often unrelated systems meet and act on or communicate with each other <the man-machine interface> b : the means by which interaction or communication is achieved at an interface |
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Thanks for the breakdown on the word,"interface". I work with a bunch of machinist's, gunsmith's, cop's, and soldiers and they rarely use the word interface concerning anything not computer related. Just thought it was a cute usage of the word....................lol Bob Hostetter Bar Sto Pistol |
Oddly enough interface was the first word that came to mind... "Fit" sounds so... plebeian.  Found this little gem of info in my search for the definition of the word "interface": "Usage Note: The noun interface has been around since the 1880s, meaning “a surface forming a common boundary, as between bodies or regions.” But the word did not really take off until the 1960s, when it began to be used in the computer industry to designate the point of interaction between a computer and another system, such as a printer. The word was applied to other interactions ... blah, blah, blah ad nauseum [Download or Buy Now] Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. " Pretty much says what you said. On to something completely unrelated: I see you are affiliated with Bar Sto. At one point in time (1970's ish) did Bar Sto offer a barrel for the 1911 in the .38/45 wildcat? If so is it possible to get one today without breaking the bank? Kent |
The G21 is a .45acp. Dry fire - lots of dry fire. Hunker down in comfortable two handed grip. Get the web of your hand as high up as possible on the backstrap of the gun as you can. Let your head tilt over and rest on your upper arm. Almost comfortable enough to the point where you could fall asleep in that position if you wanted to. Keep the gun, and the sights, perfectly vertical. Get the perfect sight picture: Line up the front and rear sights, then focus on the target, then focus on the front sight. Always aim in the same spot - middle of the bullseye, lollipop - it shouldn't matter, just be Consistent. Breathe in deeply a few times while allowing your trigger finger to take up the slack, the trigger should be right in between your distal joint (first knuckle crease) with Glocks and XDs. I like to let the shot break as I exhale slowly, never liked holding my breath. Keep the the trigger coming straight back and wait for the "click" (you're still dry firing remember?) The striker/firing pin release should come as a surprise. This is the point where people tend to fall off: GET A SECONDARY SIGHT PICTURE AFTER THE TRIGGER PULL! You'll want the same sight picture you had before the trigger pull. After a few dry fires, load the gun and go for groups. After each shot, keep the trigger back while you're getting your second sight picture, no need to try and bury it into the frame, just keep enough pressure on it so it stays back. After that, slowly allow the trigger to go forward enough to reset (you'll hear or feel a little click). The trigger does not need to go any further than that. Breathe, sight picture, press your next shot, sight picture. As long as you're Consistent with the sight picture, have a stern, comfortable (lazy, but full) grip, and strong with your trigger control - you will be able to out shoot a ransom rest. |