Posted: 7/10/2016 3:50:19 PM EDT
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Hi all,
I'll be picking up a new handgun in the next week-ish, and was looking to get some opinions on my options. I already have an AR-15 and a Kimber 1911. I want something in 9mm this time, but I don't want to break the bank. Deciding between: 1) Sig Sauer P2022 2) S&W SD9VE 3)S&W M&P9 (Either the base size or the compact) 4)Any recommendations you guys mention that I haven't thought of already! I had plenty of fondling/shooting the M&P9 and the SD9VE but haven't had a chance to shoot a 9mm 2022 yet. I've shot plenty of glocks throughout my life so I'm not really looking to pick one up. Nothing against glock, their fantastic. Any community suggestions? Thanks in advance all. 
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Options 2 and 3 are striker pistols while the Sig is hammer fired. Do you have a preference?
I have a SD9VE and I like it a lot. It's not a Sigma, and the stock trigger is not hateful. It will take M&P sites and it can be had for less than $300. The SP2022 my friend has is a sweet shooter and if I buy a hammer fired pistol that's likely what it will be. Another option you might want to look at is a CZ P07. |
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Options 2 and 3 are striker pistols while the Sig is hammer fired. Do you have a preference? I have a SD9VE and I like it a lot. It's not a Sigma, and the stock trigger is not hateful. It will take M&P sites and it can be had for less than $300. The SP2022 my friend has is a sweet shooter and if I buy a hammer fired pistol that's likely what it will be. Another option you might want to look at is a CZ P07. Not really so much of a preference of the two. All I will say is that my 1911 is hammer fired with SA only, so if I was going to do another hammer fired, it would have to be something like the sig or other DA/SA triggers. I've heard of the P07 but never been able to try one out. Not going to lie though, I haven't looked into them much but probably will now. Are they pretty common around most gun shops? |
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Of those, I'd go with the Sig. If you're not married to those choices, I'd also suggest the CZ P 07/P 09 and the PPQ I think I'm going to check the PPQ out as well. Haven't tried any Walthers out at all actually. Just want to add this is: I'm seeing all different prices for all of these guns, especially the 2022. I saw someone once say that after a certain price point, I think it was closer to the $500 mark, that it is no longer worth that price. So far, I'm seeing them go for around $440-$470 at the stores I've been too. Is the 2022 still worth it at that price point or does it start to loose some of its price/performance value at that point? |
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Not really so much of a preference of the two. All I will say is that my 1911 is hammer fired with SA only, so if I was going to do another hammer fired, it would have to be something like the sig or other DA/SA triggers. I've heard of the P07 but never been able to try one out. Not going to lie though, I haven't looked into them much but probably will now. Are they pretty common around most gun shops? Quoted:
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Options 2 and 3 are striker pistols while the Sig is hammer fired. Do you have a preference? I have a SD9VE and I like it a lot. It's not a Sigma, and the stock trigger is not hateful. It will take M&P sites and it can be had for less than $300. The SP2022 my friend has is a sweet shooter and if I buy a hammer fired pistol that's likely what it will be. Another option you might want to look at is a CZ P07. Not really so much of a preference of the two. All I will say is that my 1911 is hammer fired with SA only, so if I was going to do another hammer fired, it would have to be something like the sig or other DA/SA triggers. I've heard of the P07 but never been able to try one out. Not going to lie though, I haven't looked into them much but probably will now. Are they pretty common around most gun shops? The CZ's can't be found as easily as the usual suspects in my AO, but can be found. The trigger on the Sig is very nice IMO. If you're going to consider a Walther, I'd look at the P99AS. It's a striker with essentially a DA/SA mode. |
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Glock 19 A used one could be right in the range of the other pistols listed. The Sig listed is a find choice as well but also consider the P320 if you are going to look at the PPQ. M&P is a good choice trigger is kind of MEH on them especially when you compare to to all the other striker fired pistols coming out these days. My best suggestion is to go to several gun shops and check out the used cases. Used you can almost always find a gem in the rough and a lot of times the pistols you see in the used case are barely used if at all. So many people buy a pistol go to the range once shoot it, hate it, then sell it used for trade or the other thing that happens they buy the pistol never shoot it come on hard times and sell it off. I just bought a G17 this friday that if it had been shot I could not tell, no ghosting on the barrel, no wear on the hood, and the internals did not have the GSR all over them when I detail stripped it. |
| You've got three sound options listed. Just to have your bases covered, I would probably throw the SIG P320 into the mix and also the Springfield XD Mod 2 Service. Pick what you like best and run with it. All of them are good manufacturers, with good warranties, and excellent aftermarket support. None of them are a bad choice. |
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How is the CZ's trigger compared to the Sigs? I have a 226 Navy, and a SP01, I have more rounds through the Sig, I rented a P01 to shoot side by side with the 226 (before I bought the SP01). I was immediately impressed with the way the CZ shot and how the trigger felt. Stock for stock I give the nod to the CZ, I have handled a friends 226 that had custom work done on it and the SRT, it was much improved over stock. |
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I would opt for a different model/used Sig 229 or 226 instead of a 2022. In my opinion, the 2022 is over priced for what it is. You only have a choice of 2 grip sizes and there is not much after market support of it, more so for the grips. Don't get me wrong, it is a good handgun but does not feel/operate like a metal framed counter part. I had one years ago and did not like the overall size/feel of the grips and decocker mechanism does not function as smooth as a metal framed Sig.
If you are looking for a striker fired gun, the M&P is a great gun, as well as of course, the Glock. The Glock is more popular for many reasons. Some examples are it just plain works right out of the box, parts can be found almost anywhere if you want to change/add parts on it, mags are the cheapest around of any handgun, you can disassemble the entire pistol without any fancy tools or knocking out of any roll pins and it has proven itself over and over. The gen. 4 has new back straps which allow you to adjust the size of the grip and add/extend to the rear (tang) of the pistol, which is great for shooters like me who sometimes suffer slide bite on some pistols. I also had a Sig 320 but could not get used to the short trigger pull for a defense gun. That is more of a personal thing for me. It was designed to be a great platform so you can switch from a 9mm to a 40 to a 357 Sig, by just swapping the trigger/module into another grip module,slide and barrel kit. The onyl problem with that is, is the cost of the kits cost just as much as the gun itself and to me, kind of defeats the purpose. Although I will get flamed for saying this, I wouldn't waste your money on the SDVE. It doesn't have the ability to change the grip like the other two,without having to buy something after market. It costs almost as much as a M&P or Glock but has less after market support of either of the other two pistols. If you don't like it, you will lose more money with it when you go to sell it. Spend the little extra and get a better pistol. |
| Thanks for all of the advice so far. I have an FFL near my house who usually has very good prices and will be getting his prices on all of these in the next few days. I also added to that list the CZ, the XD(both the Mod 2 and the M), and the P320. I'll also keep my eye out for a used 226/229. All that I've seen so far, however, have either been pretty pricey still (around $750 - $800 ish) for a used model, or chambered for a different round. |
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Personally, I think you need a gun that could be carried. I'm not sure about the laws in NJ. But when I first started shooting, my state didn't have CCW, and I only bought handguns that were full sized. Then when we finally got CCW, I was a little behind the 8 ball on all that and it took me a while to figure out what I was going to do about it. Although a few of my full sized guns worked, a smaller gun worked better for carrying.
I carry a G26 and it shoots like a full sized gun. Or nearly as good, depending. At least for me it does. I'm turning into an annoying guy that keeps shouting the praises of one gun. I'm not a Glock fanboi, but I sure do love that G26. But even if you don't go that route, choose one that you could carry, if you ever found yourself in a position to. A 1911 makes a pretty good carry gun too though. But for those times you need something a little smaller....... |
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Personally, I think you need a gun that could be carried. I'm not sure about the laws in NJ. But when I first started shooting, my state didn't have CCW, and I only bought handguns that were full sized. Then when we finally got CCW, I was a little behind the 8 ball on all that and it took me a while to figure out what I was going to do about it. Although a few of my full sized guns worked, a smaller gun worked better for carrying. I carry a G26 and it shoots like a full sized gun. Or nearly as good, depending. At least for me it does. I'm turning into an annoying guy that keeps shouting the praises of one gun. I'm not a Glock fanboi, but I sure do love that G26. But even if you don't go that route, choose one that you could carry, if you ever found yourself in a position to. A 1911 makes a pretty good carry gun too though. But for those times you need something a little smaller....... You make a very good point, and I agree with it 100%. Unfortunately, in NJ there's only something like 1,000 or less people who are allowed too CC who aren't active duty law enforcement. But if I do ever move to a state that will allow me too (and it's looking like a possibility sometime in the next few years), then maybe I should consider one I can carry. |