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6/16/2016 6:07:26 PM EDT
Does anyone have any hands on experience?

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2016/2/1/22-tcm/
6/17/2016 7:36:14 AM EDT
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shot one once.  Sounds like a howitzer going off with the recoil of a .22.  Lots of flash too coming out of the barrel.  The gun I shot came with a 9mm conversion barrel as well.  I thought it was a cool little package.
6/20/2016 4:46:09 PM EDT
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I must be a little behind the curve, I just read about it a month or so ago. Seems like it might be a fun package and reasonably cheap to shoot, the price of admission is pretty steep though........
6/20/2016 7:52:10 PM EDT
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Looking into getting one of the 9mm/22TCM 1911s.

I love my .45s, but thinking about capacity with all the stuuff going down now,
6/20/2016 8:21:06 PM EDT
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I've had one for a few years.   Very light recoil (close to .22 LR), very big boom.   The combo kit comes with two extractors, two recoil springs and two barrels, but I've found I can leave the 9mm extractor in and it works pretty well like that.  

The mags are basically Para .38 super mags.   Honestly I shoot 9mm out of it when I shoot it at all.
6/20/2016 8:28:04 PM EDT
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These are fun to shoot. There is very little recoil and the flash is about the size of a basketball.
6/20/2016 10:00:36 PM EDT
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Indeed. Muzzle flash is noticeable even in bright noon sunlight in AZ.

It is an interesting pistol and cartridge, more so even than the 5.7mm cartridge and pistol.

The TCM pistol being less expensive and the TCM cartridge being more powerfully.

The pistol and ammo I shot chronographed right on the 2000fps advertised.

6/21/2016 3:30:09 PM EDT
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I've never looked for it, is reasonably priced ammo available?
6/21/2016 4:11:01 PM EDT
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I'm seeing $25 / 50 in gun stores and it seems to be relatively common.  Cheaper online obviously.
6/22/2016 4:02:39 PM EDT
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I could live with the price of ammo, to own and shoot something unique. I could pretty much bet that nobody else at the range is shooting one.................
6/22/2016 9:30:25 PM EDT
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I remember when the TCM was introduced...or at least became common enough to start seeing mention of it online and articles shortly after the 1911 9/TCM combos went on the market. Looked badass and still does.

There was a rumor that somebody was going to make a Glock conversion for 9x19 Glocks and that really REALLY made me interested. Unfortunately, so far the round isn't gaining popularity like I hope to see.
6/22/2016 10:03:15 PM EDT
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I own an RIA tcm, that round is fun. I got the indoor range to turn down the lights to dim so we could enjoy the muzzle flash. One of the RO tried it and grouped 3 rounds touching at 10yards, so the ammo lot seemed consistent.  ( he is a better shooter than me but I expected that)
6/23/2016 10:29:10 AM EDT
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I remember when the TCM was introduced...or at least became common enough to start seeing mention of it online and articles shortly after the 1911 9/TCM combos went on the market. Looked badass and still does.

There was a rumor that somebody was going to make a Glock conversion for 9x19 Glocks and that really REALLY made me interested. Unfortunately, so far the round isn't gaining popularity like I hope to see.
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The TCM round is longer than 9mm and won't fit in many 9mm magazines.   It works in 1911s because the magwell is already sized for a longer cartridge.
6/23/2016 11:30:45 AM EDT
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Armscor is the only people who make the guns and ammo that i know of. my 9mm/22tcm combo uses .38 super mags. they also just released a shorter version that will work in glock platforms.
6/23/2016 12:14:51 PM EDT
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The TCM round is longer than 9mm and won't fit in many 9mm magazines.   It works in 1911s because the magwell is already sized for a longer cartridge.
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I remember when the TCM was introduced...or at least became common enough to start seeing mention of it online and articles shortly after the 1911 9/TCM combos went on the market. Looked badass and still does.

There was a rumor that somebody was going to make a Glock conversion for 9x19 Glocks and that really REALLY made me interested. Unfortunately, so far the round isn't gaining popularity like I hope to see.


The TCM round is longer than 9mm and won't fit in many 9mm magazines.   It works in 1911s because the magwell is already sized for a longer cartridge.


You are not wrong in regard to the 22TCM as originally offered.

However, Armscor has a variant "22 TCM 9R" of the cartridge specifically developed for conversions of common 9mm Luger platforms.

Currently Armscor catalogs conversion uppers for GLOCK 17/22 and 19/23 frames in addition to the 1911 conversion upper.

I do not know if any GLOCK conversions have actually been delivered.

I have seen the 9R ammo available online.

The 9R has a 39gr bullet instead of the 40gr of the standard loading.
6/23/2016 3:55:36 PM EDT
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You are not wrong in regard to the 22TCM as originally offered.

However, Armscor has a variant "22 TCM 9R" of the cartridge specifically developed for conversions of common 9mm Luger platforms.

Currently Armscor catalogs conversion uppers for GLOCK 17/22 and 19/23 frames in addition to the 1911 conversion upper.

I do not know if any GLOCK conversions have actually been delivered.

I have seen the 9R ammo available online.

The 9R has a 39gr bullet instead of the 40gr of the standard loading.
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I remember when the TCM was introduced...or at least became common enough to start seeing mention of it online and articles shortly after the 1911 9/TCM combos went on the market. Looked badass and still does.

There was a rumor that somebody was going to make a Glock conversion for 9x19 Glocks and that really REALLY made me interested. Unfortunately, so far the round isn't gaining popularity like I hope to see.


The TCM round is longer than 9mm and won't fit in many 9mm magazines.   It works in 1911s because the magwell is already sized for a longer cartridge.


You are not wrong in regard to the 22TCM as originally offered.

However, Armscor has a variant "22 TCM 9R" of the cartridge specifically developed for conversions of common 9mm Luger platforms.

Currently Armscor catalogs conversion uppers for GLOCK 17/22 and 19/23 frames in addition to the 1911 conversion upper.

I do not know if any GLOCK conversions have actually been delivered.

I have seen the 9R ammo available online.

The 9R has a 39gr bullet instead of the 40gr of the standard loading.


I wonder if the 9R can be reloaded with the 22 TCM dies.   May have to grind the base down a bit?
6/23/2016 6:47:37 PM EDT
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My understanding is same case, same chamber between the two; so I would presume the same dies.

The difference is simply a snub nosed bullet in the 9R to shorten the loaded overall length.

You would need 9R projectiles to reload the 22TCM cases as 9R ammunition.
6/23/2016 8:50:13 PM EDT
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My understanding is same case, same chamber between the two; so I would presume the same dies.

The difference is simply a snub nosed bullet in the 9R to shorten the loaded overall length.

You would need 9R projectiles to reload the 22TCM cases as 9R ammunition.
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I wonder if the 9R can be reloaded with the 22 TCM dies.   May have to grind the base down a bit?

My understanding is same case, same chamber between the two; so I would presume the same dies.

The difference is simply a snub nosed bullet in the 9R to shorten the loaded overall length.

You would need 9R projectiles to reload the 22TCM cases as 9R ammunition.



Yup, same case, just different bullets.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/gear-accessories/review-ria-22-tcm-conversion-kits/
6/24/2016 5:33:56 PM EDT
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I saw a TV show that featured Armscor and this round several weeks ago.  I looked at the time and found some of the 1911 9/22 combos on Gunbroker as well as a couple of Glock conversions then.  Looked fun to me.  But I also liked the .22 Jet.  : )

Rob