Posted: 3/27/2015 3:26:53 AM EDT
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Just found out about this caliber today and was wondering if anyone was experience with it at all. I went to the web site and they have the conversion kit for my XD 45 Tactical.
Has anyone here tried there kits and what has your experience been with the 460 Rowland caliber in general. |
| I would like inputs on this as well. The kits to convert a 1911 aren't expensive though I don't know how 'drop in' any barrel can be. The numbers the round generates are amazing. I've read the recoil isn't bad either. Would like to hear from those who are using this round here and what the potential downsides might be. The more I read about it the more I'm wondering what the catch is. |
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I'm wondering what the catch is. Ammo cost, selection and availability, assumming you're not reloading. ETA I've looked into it myself and have decided (again) to consolidate my handgun calibers to just .380, 9mm and .45ACP. I will probably contradict myself (again) in the future. |
| My buddy has a Wilson Combat Hunter in 460 Rowland. It's not a fun gun to shoot. Recoil is like a 44 mag. He bought it to carry while hunting, to put the beat down on hogs, coons, wounded deer, or what have you. That's where this gun would shine. It's a big, fast, expensive round. He can shoot +P 45 cap rounds in it, and some target loads. It just doesn't cycle reliably with the target loads. |
| like above, a friend has one on both a 1911 and Glock chassis.... lightweight and powerful, he uses it in bear country when hunting elk... the 1911 was a fairly straight forward drop in, with some minor hood trim needed, and a little tweaking of the recoil spring... the Glock is yet to be as reliable due to the quicker unlocking and need for spring tweaking...we just haven't worked with it as much... both shot well, recoil not bad enough to make me flinch so bad I was not able to run a plate rack at 20yd... |
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It is a specialty cartridge. It is to fill the need of needing bigger hit power out of a combat size auto loader.
I carry one for back-up for archery hunting or a little farther off in the woods nature walks. It is the same size/weight of normally carried SD pistols and uses the same holster, magazines, pouches, manual of arms; all that stuff. I have lights mounted on both because it get darks in the woods and you will be night blind and deaf after you fire the first round. So if you want to see that you stopped the bear you should consider having a light mounted and it helps with the additional recoil. My Glock conversion runs better than the 1911. the 1911 is very finicky about OAL of cartridges and projectile shape. The Glock loads fire and operates any Rowland round. You do not need this thing for home defense, or carry, a plain Jane 45 ACP will take care of all that. Now if you are in a place that has critters that bite, stomp, scratch and gore this cartridge could work quite well. Also for those folks like my that prefer auto-loaders over revolvers. Also it keeps the weight down form large wheel guns and belt mounted artillery pieces. |
I would have to say this was a faster reply from everyone's than I thought. But thank you everybody who chimed in on this matter. I was looking for a little more bit to go in my XD 45 Tactical. I plan on this little hunting down in South Carolina. I got the offer for hog hunting, so I thought why not. I didn't feel like carrying around my heavy bore barrel 308. So I'm going with the Mosin Nagant . I still have my trusty 45 tactical with HST. Nothing like have 1 in the chamber and 16 friends behind him waiting in line. " AGP mag extension" just thought about something that can have a little more bite to it so to say. it would be nice though to have the 460 Rowland with a federal HST 230 grain on top of it. Now I'll pay money to see that perform. From what I have seen the kit can run 45 acp , 45 +p, 45 super, and the 460 rowland. Thats not a bad line up there. Plus the guy made a soup up 9mm as well, calling it the 9 rowland. 
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Didn't even know that 45 smc existed. very interesting indeed. Well my next step is to go and buy a second pistol or if I'm lucky the slide for the 45 XD tactical. then do the converison kit.
Also does anyone know if Federal sells the bullets for the HST by themselves? |
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Just found out about this caliber today and was wondering if anyone was experience with it at all. I went to the web site and they have the conversion kit for my XD 45 Tactical. Has anyone here tried there kits and what has your experience been with the 460 Rowland caliber in general. Sure: 
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Just found out about this caliber today and was wondering if anyone was experience with it at all. I went to the web site and they have the conversion kit for my XD 45 Tactical. Has anyone here tried there kits and what has your experience been with the 460 Rowland caliber in general. ...and another
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wu9S5gIt_EThank you for the videos I have seen your channel before. you got some great stuff there. Great videos and production all around. I guess I would want to see someone hunting with it. well so far I'm all out of questions but I hope others will add to the page
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My buddy has a Wilson Combat Hunter in 460 Rowland. It's not a fun gun to shoot. Recoil is like a 44 mag. He bought it to carry while hunting, to put the beat down on hogs, coons, wounded deer, or what have you. That's where this gun would shine. It's a big, fast, expensive round. He can shoot +P 45 cap rounds in it, and some target loads. It just doesn't cycle reliably with the target loads. Isn't that what would make it fun? 
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Didn't even know that 45 smc existed. very interesting indeed. Well my next step is to go and buy a second pistol or if I'm lucky the slide for the 45 XD tactical. then do the converison kit.
Also does anyone know if Federal sells the bullets for the HST by themselves? If this pistol/round is for defense or back-up against bear, bore, mountain lion, etc... You want penetration that hits hard, deep, and breaks bone. I converted a Springfield 1911 to .45Super (3) years ago for Kayak fishing and launching/exiting water. Black Bear were breaking into cabins, cars, etc... All I did was upgrade the recoil spring to a 23lb Wolff Recoil spring, matching firing pin spring that came with the recoil spring; and install Wolff extra power magazine springs in the magazine to keep up with the extra slide velocity. The HK45 and Springfield 1911 pistols are the only ones rated from the factory to safely shoot the .45Super round. But I found that an extra power recoil spring and Wolff extra power mag springs make the Springfield 99.9+% reliable. After that, I had a .45Super that is very comfortable to shoot, (like shooting a .45+P recoil wise), and very accurate. I have 10+1 rounds capacity courteous of a McCormick extra power mag and two (8) round Wilson 47D mag reloads... The ammo I use is from Buffalo Bore. It's a 255 grain, truncated cone, lead hard cast bullet. It clocks out at 1100fps out of the 5" barrel. It will also put the big hurt on 2 legged predators as well. You can get these HERE. Just a thought to add to the mix. For me it made the most sense; for $25 I converted my existing .45acp 1911 to shoot .45Super reliably in a pistol I was very familiar with... ETA: I didn't see this quote earlier, my bad... "From what I have seen the kit can run 45 acp , 45 +p, 45 super, and the 460 rowland. Thats not a bad line up there." Do you have a link to the kit or have you seen the same kit perform with all these calibers? If so then right on. If not then I have a hard time believing that this kit set up one way (say to shoot the .45Rowland), would be able to fire .45acp, 45+P, 45Super, only the change of a magazine/ammo. What I'm saying is if it's set up to shoot the Rowland exclusively I doubt .45acp would cycle and .45+P would be iffy. Of course this is only my experience with setting my aforementioned 1911 above. It shoots the 45Super fantasticly with the 23lb recoil spring and extra power mag spring but it won't shoot most .45acp or even .45+P reliably. This is only my experience and I don't own an XD .45 so it may be a totally different end result. Post pics and experiences whatever you decide and good luck brother! The Super and Rowland are really fun to carry/shoot in the woods and are comforting... |