Posted: 8/8/2014 7:11:43 AM EDT
| Anyone own one? LGS has one in the case for $719, is that a good price. What do you think of this gun or should I choose a USP for my first H&K? |
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I actually rented one at the range earlier in the week and was quite unimpressed. I ran 40 rounds through it before I decided I wasn't going to waste any more ammo with it. I was horribly inaccurate with it. My groupings were all over the place. My cousin also fired a few mags through it with similar results. We shot three other guns that day, A 92fs, P226 and M&P 9 and our groups were a whole lot tighter with those three compared to the P2000.
I don't know if it was us a the shooters, since we were both used to shooting full size pistols, or if it was that particular pistol. What I do know is the next time I have a coupon for a free rental at that range, I won't be picking the P2000 |
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I have one with the LEM trigger variant, it was basically released as an updated version of the USP compact. A lot of people ask "what does it do for 200 dollars more that a Glock can't do"? You have to see if you can answer that question for yourself. For me the ergos and mag release style are enough of an improvement over something like a G19. I think the P2000 is a pretty good all around 9mm, I had a P30 for a while and preferred the P2000 overall. I like the mag release style more then the button style. Mine has never failed to go bang either. Are you used to shooting DA/SA pistols? The grip on the P2000 fits my hand very well, mine has a Hogue slip over that gives me a real good grip. I really like the feel of it in the hand.
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I have one with the LEM trigger variant, it was basically released as an updated version of the USP compact. A lot of people ask "what does it do for 200 dollars more that a Glock can't do"? You have to see if you can answer that question for yourself. For me the ergos and mag release style are enough of an improvement over something like a G19. I think the P2000 is a pretty good all around 9mm, I had a P30 for a while and preferred the P2000 overall. I like the mag release style more then the button style. Mine has never failed to go bang either. Are you used to shooting DA/SA pistols? The grip on the P2000 fits my hand very well, mine has a Hogue slip over that gives me a real good grip. I really like the feel of it in the hand. Not impersonate a brick! 
The genealogy goes ... USP -> P2000 -> P2000SK -> HK45 family -> P30. All of these pistols have similar reliability and even common parts across some of them. The main differences are the ergonomics have become progressively better over time. So you're going to pick based on ergos, size and then the "variant" which is they trigger/firing style. |
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I actually rented one at the range earlier in the week and was quite unimpressed. I ran 40 rounds through it before I decided I wasn't going to waste any more ammo with it. I was horribly inaccurate with it. My groupings were all over the place. My cousin also fired a few mags through it with similar results. We shot three other guns that day, A 92fs, P226 and M&P 9 and our groups were a whole lot tighter with those three compared to the P2000. I don't know if it was us a the shooters, since we were both used to shooting full size pistols, or if it was that particular pistol. What I do know is the next time I have a coupon for a free rental at that range, I won't be picking the P2000 I am sad to hear that. I used to carry a USP compact in .40 that was very accurate (same as German Sig I had). I have been thinking of getting the new VP9 and hope it would be as accurate as the USP I had. I should never have sold it, but it was a bit thick for concealed carry. |
| I like HKs, but not so much on this particular model. I rented both a USPc and P2000, both similar guns. Neither of them had any FTFs or malfunctions, but I did much better with the uspc. I guess the main reason is that the trigger reset on the non LEM version is incredibly long |
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Anyone own one? LGS has one in the case for $719, is that a good price. What do you think of this gun or should I choose a USP for my first H&K? It is if its NIB> My first HK was / is a P30S I wish I bought the P30LS The height is the same so hiding it would be the same as the P30 |
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I've got 2 P2000's (9 & .357), both LEM in TGS form, and a USPC in .45 v1. All HK's I've tried are reliable in the extreme and built to last. I have always been a Sig man, until I picked up a P2000 LEM at a gun show a couple of years ago. The grip felt great and I tried the LEM trigger; I was hooked.
The USPC v1 will need to be converted to LEM as the HK DA/SA is not to my liking compared to Sig's DA/SA. Sure, I have many striker fired handguns (Glocks, a PPQ, XD's, etc.), but having a visible hammer and the LEM action was instant love for my particular tastes. I don't think it's for everyone, but I find I can hit better and quicker than with striker fired or DA/SA. I can't speak to a P2000 in v3, but I would bet it will be uber reliable if you happen to like HK's DA/SA. YMMV |
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I've got one, as well as the smaller P2000-SK. I like them both and they are more accurate than I can shoot. If the trigger didn't suck so bad you could actually put some of that accuracy to work. P2000? Heavier than a Glock 19, slide release levers in the way, mag release is weird, trigger sucks, but costs more. What am I missing? |
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If the trigger didn't suck so bad you could actually put some of that accuracy to work. P2000? Heavier than a Glock 19, slide release levers in the way, mag release is weird, trigger sucks, but costs more. What am I missing? Quoted:
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I've got one, as well as the smaller P2000-SK. I like them both and they are more accurate than I can shoot. If the trigger didn't suck so bad you could actually put some of that accuracy to work. P2000? Heavier than a Glock 19, slide release levers in the way, mag release is weird, trigger sucks, but costs more. What am I missing? Agreed. Nicely engineered guns. Designed by mechanical engineers, not shooters. And it shows. |
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If the trigger didn't suck so bad you could actually put some of that accuracy to work. P2000? Heavier than a Glock 19, slide release levers in the way, mag release is weird, trigger sucks, but costs more. What am I missing? Quoted:
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I've got one, as well as the smaller P2000-SK. I like them both and they are more accurate than I can shoot. If the trigger didn't suck so bad you could actually put some of that accuracy to work. P2000? Heavier than a Glock 19, slide release levers in the way, mag release is weird, trigger sucks, but costs more. What am I missing? G19 can have issues. The HK P2000 is a excellent bet it will be GTG out of the box. Trigger sucks ? Which variant ? I hear guys bitch about the P30 V3 trigger . And yet I haven't had any problems with my P30S V3 . But that could be I started with revolvers in the 80`s. Mainly Kframes with the spur grounded off to make it DAO. I also have notice revolver shooters seem to have a lot les issues with triggers system on said service pistol. |
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I've got one, as well as the smaller P2000-SK. I like them both and they are more accurate than I can shoot. If the trigger didn't suck so bad you could actually put some of that accuracy to work. P2000? Heavier than a Glock 19, slide release levers in the way, mag release is weird, trigger sucks, but costs more. What am I missing? Agreed. Nicely engineered guns. Designed by mechanical engineers, not shooters. And it shows. And I feel confident in saying the latest Glock modifications were motivated completely by cost cutting managers, not by any type of engineers, and it shows too. I've posted this feeling in other threads. I'd rather depend on a gun designed by a German Mechanical Engineer obsessed with quality (and Germans are fanatical about this with everything they make), than one motivated by a manager with a Business degree and a sweaty forehead presenting some profit numbers in a powerpoint slide during a presentation. I own older Glocks and they are rock solid, but would not buy the current generation. Like most other consumer products, the first generations are overbuilt, and as the name brand catches on, the desire to cut cost per unit is the primary motivation in the more mature model modifications. What holds true for the BlueRay player assembly line sadly holds true for the Glock assembly line as well. |
| I have a P2000 (w/LEM) that I got new in 2005 and have carried it every day since. It is a very nice pistol and quite accurate. Not one issue in a few thousand rounds. I really like it and will never get rid of it, but if I could do it over now, I would get the P30. Mostly because I have very large hands and the P30 just fits me better and it really is not that much bigger than the P2000. I won't get into a pissing match, but I do feel any HK is a better gun than a Glock. Glocks are fine, but not an HK. Most of the gripes with the triggers is just a training issue. The LEM is fantastic. Different, but a great trigger. I also have a USP .45 that I got in 1999. I have well over 12,000 rounds through that gun and not one issue. By far, my favorite hand gun. However it is quite large for a carry gun. |
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what was I missing with the LEM function? is the hammer supposed to stay cocked after chambering a round? I didn't see a decocker. The lem is it's own animal, it's a DA trigger with an almost empty take up and a nice break. Trigger pull is always the same unless a round fails to ignite and then the second strike/heavy tension sets in. I am not a fan of da/sa H&Ks but I love my p30 LEM lite |