Posted: 2/5/2005 12:19:41 AM EDT
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I will be purchasing my first handgun within the next month and I am debating between these 2: A Kimber Pro TLE/RL II & An H&K USP Compact in .40 S&W Which one would you guys recommend? Pros and Cons of each? |
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H&K first, maybe the Kimber later. The H&K will be better suited for CCW as to its ability to function in worse environment than the Kimber, IMO. I'd also go as far as to say the H&K will also be more accurate than the Kimber as well. But, as gotM4 said, buy what fits you best. |
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You are comparing apples to oranges, since the H&K is a compact. Still, I prefer the Kimber. The 1911 is just a great gun to hold. I don't agree with the CCW issue raised by BobCole. The 1911 is slimmer and more conceable, and it's available in reduced sizes. I carry a Kimber Pro CDP II daily. 1911's run fine, I wouldn't worry about that. Mags are cheaper for the 1911. I'm not a big fan of the .40 S&W, nor the DA/SA, DAO, etc.... |
Honestly, depends what you need it for. As mentioned they are apples and oranges. The HK USPc would make the better CCW, The Kimber a good all around piece. Really, you can't go wrong with either one. Both are fine weapons. |
| Both are great guns. Since its your first, and for CCW I recommend the USP. Why because of less operator error potential. The HK can be carryed safety on hammer down. Harder to AD than a single action only cocked and locked piece. Either gun should perform well. YOU need to decide , do ya want a light first shot trigger pull or is a longer DA pull better suited to a CCW use senario? |
What are you planning to use a handgun for? Home protection, CCW, camping, the range.....? This helps narrow it down. All in all, I like and use a Kimber. |
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That's a freaking hard choice. Really are apples and oranges. Personally I shoot better with the H&K (1911s don't like my hand very much). I think I'm going to have to go with get both. If you have to pick right now... wow, that's hard. Personally I'd go with the H&K, but that's preference. I know I'll be getting a Kimber at some point. |
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They are both good guns, I've got a Gold Match II and a USP 9 and USP 45. I use the HK 45 as a carry gun more often than my 1911's because it's lighter. Even with a good pistol belt (Wilderness or Wild Bills Concealment) the 1911's are heavy enough to pull my waistband down. (my um... physique is part of that too) The HK is bulky, which makes concealment more challenging, but refer back to the comment on my physique. I won't say that my HK's are more accurate than my 1911's. They do have that potential, and are certainly capable of more accuracy than your average shooter, but the HK triggers leave much to be desired. They are combat accurate, and carry gun accurate. But there's a reason why you never see top level IDPA shooters weilding HK's. The triggers aren't conducive to that sort of work. There's also a reason why the CDP class in IDPA has quicker classifier requirements than SSP. Both have pro's and cons. It really depends on what you are looking for in a gun. Both will make commendable defensive firearms. If you are looking for a "tackdriver," unfortunately the HK trigger will make that more challenging. |