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7/4/2013 3:40:27 PM EDT
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Is this rust? I have been carrying it for two weeks and noticed the mags have been having trouble dropping out and going in
7/4/2013 3:53:07 PM EDT
[#1]
huh, I have not had that with mine... pop it out and see whats going on in there!
7/4/2013 4:02:39 PM EDT
[#2]
If you sweat on it, it can rust, especially if it's not nitrided metal- although I have seen people with sweat that could corrode a Glock and eat away the stainless back of a good watch.
7/4/2013 4:20:45 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
If you sweat on it, it can rust, especially if it's not nitrided metal- although I have seen people with sweat that could corrode a Glock and eat away the stainless back of a good watch.


Hopefully my sweat isn't that rough  I sweat through the holster apparently because the front part of the slide has been wet.
What could I change on the mag release to fix it?
7/4/2013 4:29:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If you sweat on it, it can rust, especially if it's not nitrided metal- although I have seen people with sweat that could corrode a Glock and eat away the stainless back of a good watch.


Hopefully my sweat isn't that rough  I sweat through the holster apparently because the front part of the slide has been wet.
What could I change on the mag release to fix it?


I guess you could try a heavy oil or maybe paint, but that wouldn't be permanet and might make the release feel sticky. You could have the metal part chromed, NP3cd, or Ionbonded, but that might be pricey just to have a small piece plated.
7/4/2013 4:41:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:


Hopefully my sweat isn't that rough  I sweat through the holster apparently because the front part of the slide has been wet.
What could I change on the mag release to fix it?


I guess you could try a heavy oil or maybe paint, but that wouldn't be permanet and might make the release feel sticky. You could have the metal part chromed, NP3cd, or Ionbonded, but that might be pricey just to have a small piece plated.[/quote]
Reckon a coat of CLP every few days would suffice? Or a coat of rustoleum?
7/4/2013 6:16:42 PM EDT
[#6]
disassembled it, this is what i found

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http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Rasgol/IMG_20130704_215153_937.jpg

does this seem normal for having cleaned the whole gun about 5 days ago? Any idea if S&W sells a stainless mag release? Or do i need to find a better holster that covers the mag release?
7/4/2013 6:49:14 PM EDT
[#7]
What kind of holster are you carrying it in?
7/4/2013 8:37:37 PM EDT
[#8]
EEZOX the snot out of it and let dry overnight and see if that stops the rust. Just my .02 fwiw. And your holster idea also.
7/4/2013 8:42:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Oh and how do you like your Shield? I really want one but have never seen one in person.
7/5/2013 3:10:00 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
What kind of holster are you carrying it in?


Desantis cozy partner

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7/5/2013 3:11:54 AM EDT
[#11]
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Oh and how do you like your Shield? I really want one but have never seen one in person.


I really like it excellent little gun super thin and easy to conceal and still fits in my big hands, pretty accurate too
7/5/2013 6:10:55 AM EDT
[#12]
OP.



I have a Shield9, Wife has a Shield9, we both carry them fairly often, mine is always in leather...




And mine does NOT look like that, not even a little.
7/5/2013 6:40:01 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
OP.

I have a Shield9, Wife has a Shield9, we both carry them fairly often, mine is always in leather...

And mine does NOT look like that, not even a little.


I figured it wouldn't be normal, I have an email into S&W now to see what they have to say about it hopefully they can do something about it
7/5/2013 7:28:47 AM EDT
[#14]
My Kahr PM9 did that as well. One drop of oil on the button every few months will cure it, but obviously you wanna clean that rust out of there first.
7/5/2013 8:10:19 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
My Kahr PM9 did that as well. One drop of oil on the button every few months will cure it, but obviously you wanna clean that rust out of there first.


It just amazes me it built up that bad in a week, I cleaned and oiled everything after buying it and shooting it hopefully s&w will have something good to say about possibly a stainless one
7/5/2013 8:42:43 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


EEZOX the snot out of it and let dry overnight and see if that stops the rust.



My sweat is hell on clothes, metal, exercise equipment especially, etc..



EEZOX is the only thing that keeps my LC9 from disintegrating.



 
7/5/2013 5:41:58 PM EDT
[#17]
Update: spoke to a gunsmith today and got looking at it more, the mag release isn't rusting its the bullets that are rusting can't believe I didn't notice this

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Rasgol/IMG_20130705_173450_293.jpg

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/Rasgol/IMG_20130705_173423_855.jpg
7/5/2013 6:29:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Weird. I carry the Critical Duty also and haven't had that problem.
7/6/2013 5:13:23 AM EDT
[#19]
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Weird. I carry the Critical Duty also and haven't had that problem.


Could it just be a shotty box of ammo?  I'm going to carry some ball ammo today to see if it does the same thing to it
7/8/2013 8:50:08 PM EDT
[#20]
I have had that same rust issue, both with critical duty and ranger bonded in the mag.  I carry it in a custom apendix IWB kydex rig.
7/9/2013 12:50:07 AM EDT
[#21]
LOL, that's nasty, but it has to also be the mag release. Rust isn't going to spread to surfaces that aren't touching, and there's no way that your ammo is in contact directly with your mag release.

I would probably suggest switching to a different brand of ammo, but the hell of it is that you are going to have to function test the stuff for two different things: reliability in your gun and also corrosion.

Another option would be to use a very very light coat of oil on the bullet itself, but of course keep it far away from the primers.

Either way, good luck you disgusting Sweatmonger.    
7/9/2013 2:40:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Mine got like that, but I carry mine in my front pocket and sweat a lot while working.  Just cleaned out the stuff last night.
7/9/2013 3:56:54 AM EDT
[#23]
I don't know about the cause of the rust issue, haven't seen that in my shield. But I would definately look at some different ammo. Hornady critical duty didn't expand for shit in utube tests I've seen. Speer gold dot 124gr or 147's are what I carry, my .02.
7/9/2013 4:07:09 AM EDT
[#24]
nickle and copper do not produce iron oxide rust.
7/9/2013 7:49:34 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
nickle and copper do not produce iron oxide rust.


I wondered about that, but I am far from a metallurgist, and college chemistry courses were a long time ago. Regardless of where the rust is coming from, the OP simply needs to maintain his gun more frequently and keep the metal parts oiled up. Again, I have to do the same thing with my Kahr PM9.



7/9/2013 10:15:16 AM EDT
[#26]
It needs oil.

Put a heavy coat of Break Free CLP on the thing, let it sit for about 10-15 minutes, then wipe all the excess off.

Even stainless needs some oil for long term corrosion protection.

It is stainLESS, not stainNONE.
7/9/2013 10:39:46 AM EDT
[#27]
Isn't that part plastic?
7/9/2013 11:20:52 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Isn't that part plastic?


I was wondering the same thing. The one on my full size is.
7/9/2013 11:52:53 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:
nickle and copper do not produce iron oxide rust.


I wondered about that, but I am far from a metallurgist, and college chemistry courses were a long time ago. Regardless of where the rust is coming from, the OP simply needs to maintain his gun more frequently and keep the metal parts oiled up. Again, I have to do the same thing with my Kahr PM9.





everything is oiled properly, turns out the mag release is indeed steel and is indeed rusting so I am going to get a local smith to duracoat it for me
7/9/2013 11:54:54 AM EDT
[#30]
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Isn't that part plastic?


its reversible plastic on my full size also but the shield is not reversible and is steel for whatever reason (magnet will stick to it)
7/9/2013 2:47:01 PM EDT
[#31]
OP:  My shield did the same, but not just the mag release.  Almost all of the external steel parts (safety, slide lock, serial number plate, rear sight) have had some manner of light rusting soon after I got it.  As mentioned above, I removed the rust with a light bronze brush and CLP, then coated the parts in CLP and rubbed it in well several times.  Since I have seen no rust except occasionally on the mag release on the surfaces inside the gun.  I suspect in that case, sweat gets into that area and cant evaporate or be wiped off, so it rusts it.  Everything else, however, has been rust free.

Perhaps S&W should look into using their standard plastic mag release on the shield as well...
7/10/2013 5:37:24 AM EDT
[#32]
On the M&P the mag release button is completely polymer. No idea why they put a partially metal part in the Shield.
7/11/2013 7:46:50 AM EDT
[#33]
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On the M&P the mag release button is completely polymer. No idea why they put a partially metal part in the Shield.


Metal is stronger by volume?