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5/16/2013 5:59:32 PM EDT
Are the polymers / plastics the same in a Ruger  and Glock.

If not what are the main differences ? Why are they different and to what advantage ?
5/16/2013 6:26:52 PM EDT
[#1]
IT ain't the plastics you gotta worry about and for "what is better" all you are going to get here is advice for glock. I would advise the same.
5/16/2013 7:41:37 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Are the polymers / plastics the same in a Ruger  and Glock.

If not what are the main differences ? Why are they different and to what advantage ?


I would say yes they are the same, but, what each co. does to their weapons is different.

Sheetmetal on a Chevy is the same on a Ford but the designs/features are different.

You're just going to have to play with as many as you can put your hands on and see what works the best for you.

NEVER let price be a factor, my first handgun was an HK USP 9 that I paid $800 for brand new, just because that was what worked the best for me.
5/16/2013 8:25:22 PM EDT
[#3]
I don't know about Glock, but the polymer of my Ruger pistols is very similar to that of my Springfield XD and XDM pistols. Excellent quality. Never had a problem with either brand.

I've handled some KelTec and S&W Sigma plastic that felt like it belonged in the toy section at Target.
5/16/2013 9:11:11 PM EDT
[#4]
for all practical purposes, they are functionally similar.  There are different trade names, methods of manufacture, and blends of materials that comprise slight differences.  

If this is your first foray into "Plastic" pistols, then I will take a guess that they all seem very similar to you.  I would like to offer my thoughts as someone that has been around a lot of these guns for a while now, that there are some differences, and some are certainly more durable and tougher than others.

As it has been noted, Glock probably has the toughest and highest quality polymer, with HK a close second.  After that, the S&W M&P is quite nice, and actually has a metal subframe in the polymer.  Ruger actually has nice plastics too, but none of their centerfire polymer handguns excite me.  Sig, FN, and the lower end S&W's do indeed feel like they belong in a garbage can.

I'm really not sure what you are using to qualify your decision, or if you are just trying to learn about the polymers as a whole.  However, I would encourage you to not buy based on a gun being made of one plastic versus another, and look at the other features that matter to you.  

I also encourage you to take a look at police trade-in polymer guns and see how they wear.  I assure you that you will see that the Glocks are tough as nails, and while certainly looking "used", they are really only telling you how many times they got roughed up and rolled around on the ground with the cops that carried them and never blinked in reliability or function.
5/17/2013 4:07:53 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
for all practical purposes, they are functionally similar.  There are different trade names, methods of manufacture, and blends of materials that comprise slight differences.  

If this is your first foray into "Plastic" pistols, then I will take a guess that they all seem very similar to you.  I would like to offer my thoughts as someone that has been around a lot of these guns for a while now, that there are some differences, and some are certainly more durable and tougher than others.

As it has been noted, Glock probably has the toughest and highest quality polymer, with HK a close second.  After that, the S&W M&P is quite nice, and actually has a metal subframe in the polymer.  Ruger actually has nice plastics too, but none of their centerfire polymer handguns excite me.  Sig, FN, and the lower end S&W's do indeed feel like they belong in a garbage can.

I'm really not sure what you are using to qualify your decision, or if you are just trying to learn about the polymers as a whole.  However, I would encourage you to not buy based on a gun being made of one plastic versus another, and look at the other features that matter to you.  

I also encourage you to take a look at police trade-in polymer guns and see how they wear.  I assure you that you will see that the Glocks are tough as nails, and while certainly looking "used", they are really only telling you how many times they got roughed up and rolled around on the ground with the cops that carried them and never blinked in reliability or function.


First thanks for the info.
I was just trying to learn a bit about the plastic out of curiosity .

I have three Glocks 23-19-36 all are fine and "IMO"  they among the best of handguns out there today .

Like you I never thought I'd consider a Ruger as price is not a consideration for me . I was handed a Ruger SRC9 one day by a family member and was surprised at the construction - size - weight - magazine capacity  . So I purchased one and put about 250 rounds through it ( would have been more but this ammo  situation is nuts ) I was very surprised and it is now  in my CCW carry line up,  in fact I feel  between it and the Glock 36 both will be the main go to handguns .


I was just interested in the "glass filled nylon" plastic on the glock it has a different texture IMO than the Glocks
5/17/2013 4:24:30 AM EDT
[#6]
Ruger, as well as most other manufactures use a fiberglass impregnated polymer, whereas Glock uses a modified Nylon polymer due to cracking issues of glass reinforced polymers in extreme cold during early development of the Glock.
5/17/2013 7:52:34 AM EDT
[#7]
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Ruger, as well as most other manufactures use a fiberglass impregnated polymer, whereas Glock uses a modified Nylon polymer due to cracking issues of glass reinforced polymers in extreme cold during early development of the Glock.


Can you define "extreme cold" ?
5/17/2013 2:02:23 PM EDT
[#8]
-40*F and colder.
5/17/2013 3:08:37 PM EDT
[#9]
thank you
5/17/2013 3:44:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Ruger, as well as most other manufactures use a fiberglass impregnated polymer, whereas Glock uses a modified Nylon polymer due to cracking issues of glass reinforced polymers in extreme cold during early development of the Glock.


Can you define "extreme cold" ?


The Danish "Sirius Patrol" which is a small unit of the Danish Armed Forces patrols the coldest parts of Greenland with the Glock 20 as a sidearm to protect against polar bears.  These guys are out in what is the most arguably extremely cold conditions of any armed unit in the world independent of any other facility, and they rely on the Glock 20 to keep them safe, then it's good enough for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slædepatruljen_Sirius#cite_note-CasrSirius-7