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1/30/2013 9:49:22 AM EDT
what is the difference between these three items?

http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/Accessories/GCA87.html

http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/Accessories/GCA24.html

http://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/Accessories/GCA42.html
1/30/2013 10:05:21 AM EDT
[#1]
The front plate is the same, but the Molle adaptor attachment is different in all three......
1/30/2013 10:22:13 AM EDT
[#2]
help me out - why?

I need to mount one to an armor carrier I have...
1/30/2013 10:41:33 AM EDT
[#3]
I would imagine the difference would relate to where you care going to mount it on your set up and if you are going to leave it there permanently or move it around.
1/30/2013 12:06:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
help me out - why?

I need to mount one to an armor carrier I have...


I suppose one might argue that the larger the MOLLE "footprint," the more securely it will mount to your gear.  

However, especially that middle one, I find to be obtrusively large - that is to say, I don't know how big you and/or your armor are, but I wear a size small carrier - I don't have a lot of room to spare, and even with only a few attachments, I look like I'm being buried in pouches, while some guy with 15% gear than I have looks like he's rolling "slick."  

It's annoying as hell, and I've actually gone pouch for pouch with guys who'll ask "why do you have so much shit on your vest," only for them to find out - you guessed it, they've got way more shit.  

Anyways - the point is - I have one of the three claw MOLLE adapters - and there is literally nothing I can use it on.  No matter where I put it, it gets in the way of something else.  It is a completely useless organism to me - because it's too damned big, and it just takes up too much webbing.  

The third option you listed - is much less obtrusive horizontally - but once again, because of its large vertical footprint - you can only put it so many places that it will fit.  It's not as frustrating as the three claw version - but it's still kind of annoying.  Nevertheless, if you can find room for it - it works.  

The very first one you listed, however - physically takes up no more room to mount than - well, the mount itself.  It is the least obtrusive, if arguably the least secure, as the weight that the mount needs to hold up is distributed on the fewest webbing loops of any of the options.  However - it gives you basically unlimited flexibility in where you can mount the mount, and what you can mount around it.  

Since I don't know your gear set up or body type - I suppose the best advice would be to decide where you're planning to put the mount - and then decide how much room you have around it, and what impact its going to make on your kit when you do, and select the most secure mount you can afford to use with your setup.  

However - if you're a tinkerer - and like to move around and try different setups, at least for a little while - before you settle on one - I'd just get the first mount, the one that only takes up the amount of space the mount requires - and figure out where you want it.  If after you've settled on a final location for it - and you feel that it needs to be more secure - buy one of the other mounts that will make it more solid - but until then, you will enjoy the ability to try it everywhere in every configuration - and you may determine that's it's secure enough for your needs.  

~Augee
1/30/2013 4:36:43 PM EDT
[#5]
I think I've ever gotten a better answer to a question I've asked, and I do sincerely appreciate the time it took you to write that
1/31/2013 2:13:04 AM EDT
[#6]
No problem.  

One thing I did neglect to mention is that I believe the second two are cant adjustable - the screws around the RTI wheel can be removed, and you can turn the wheel to adjust the cant, while the first is pretty much up and down.  

If you're mouting it to the side of your gear, it shouldn't matter, but if you're wanting to mount it "center of the chest" for a cross draw, you may want one that is cant adjustable.  

So far, I've been liking the RTI system - the mounting platform makes it pretty easy to pull my holster off my hip and mount it to my carrier and vice versa, and once the mounting systems are in place, it's pretty easy to just interchange between different holsters.  Good if you might want to mount multiple pistol types and/or if you want the capability to use a light, but not always.  You can get a light bearing holster, and a non-light bearing holster without having too much grief swapping them out.  

You can also buy RTI mounting platforms for different systems like the Serpa and Safariland holsters, or even custom fold your own kydex and install the RTI mounting platform to it.  

I've been using the RTI SOC system for about four months, relatively low stress environment, but daily full-time open carry.  The only problem I've had is that I had a couple screws back out of belt mounting base after I adjusted the cant, but I'm not sure if that might not have had more to do with me not adequately re-installing the RTI wheel - I retorqued the screws and haven't had a problem since with the wheel coming loose.  

The system is a promising concept, as long as they prove durable enough, I think once I return home, I may end up converting all my kit to RTI attachment points.  I do find it odd, however, how few reviews (positive or negative) there are on the system and concept.  It's much more low profile, simple, and affordable than both Safariland or Blackhawk's modular mounting platforms.  

~Augee
1/31/2013 3:37:29 AM EDT
[#7]
For me the choice is clear:
For non iwb carry I need the kydex "click" but want some sort of active retention.
Safariland has the lock, but no "click".
Plus thier interior (made out of pants from 1973) snags my draw everytime.
The Serpa, I've come to agree, is just not a system I want to rely in a stressful situation.
On the one hand the button is too small for me.
On the other, the "bottom up" methodology is (to me) a danger and accident waiting to happen.

I asked the kydex guys (a few brands) years ago for some sort of active retention, but most of them are just kydex press shops and thats pretty cheap overhead and the economic model was good so why in invest in a locking mechasnism too?


This g-code system on paper is ideal, and in my hands is exactly how it was on paper.

I have no opinion on the mounting system yet.
1/31/2013 6:18:54 AM EDT
[#8]
What are you looking for and how will it be used?

The first poster pointed out everything on what you listed.

I used the second one but that is a 2 claw molle mount not 3. It stabilizes the holster well with with the footprint it has. I used their drop adapters also for my battle belt. I have a GHS and OHS holster setup. I like how I can move it around without much trouble.

You mentioned having an added level of retention. They make the XST holsters that has a hood added. I never used these though.

I have a battle belt, plate carrier, paddle, and belt setups for the holsters with RTI mount.