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8/13/2012 7:32:29 PM EDT
Here is the deal. Over the weekend I picked up a p32 for a great price.  I shot it and it was great. Groups equal to my Smith model 60 pinned no dash. I've been carrying it since Saturday and love the thing. Light and easy to carry. Now the problem. My wife likes it too and wants it.

I figure I could pull $400ish out of the Smith, buy myself one of the. 380s and put the difference in ammo. Thoughts?
8/13/2012 7:44:34 PM EDT
[#1]
I have the p3at. It's a good pocket pistol. accurate at "get off me"" range (about 7 yards). I have had to teach my wife to not limp wrist this one due to this causing feed issues and brass to the forehead
8/13/2012 7:56:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Both work well, I bought the LCP because I liked the fit and finish a little better. The LCP seems to have cleaner lines and rounded edges for a better feel in the hand and in my opinion, it just looks better. I know it's not about looks but it's one of the reasons I got mine.

Love it, hasn't failed yet. Doesn't get carried a whole lot, I always carry a bigger gun if at all possible but there are a few times at work when I dress real light and throw my LCP in an Uncle Mikes pocket rig and depend on it.
8/13/2012 8:00:32 PM EDT
[#3]
I had a P3AT, loved it. I have the Smith BG380 now. Also love it. I had an LCP, I wasn't impressed... it was an expensive P3AT.
I'm seriously considering buying another P3AT just "Because".

I decided to upgrade to 9mm and got an LC9.  What a waste.  The trigger is trash. Got a Kahr CM9.  Great little gun.
Sadly it is just a hair too large for pocket carry for me... so the BG380 still has a home.

Check the Smith out as well.  The laser is useless to me, but it has good sights and a solid "gun like" feel that the LCP and P3AAt seem to lack.
The trigger on the Smith is good. The trigger on the Keltec and Ruger needed the GoldenLoki Fluff and Buff.

All said and done... check the Bodyguard 380 out. The P3AT is a good choice as well.

If you're anywhere near SW Ohio PM me.. you can run some rounds through the BG380, CM9 or LC9 if'n you'd like.
8/13/2012 8:35:18 PM EDT
[#4]
like askin which side of a shit sandwhich you want to bite first...
8/13/2012 11:22:57 PM EDT
[#5]
I have the P3AT and a PF9 both have been great guns, I have shot the P32, and the P3AT has a bit more bite to it just because of the slightly more powerful 380 round. The LCP is nice, but it is really just an expensive P3AT.
8/14/2012 3:51:30 AM EDT
[#6]
I've carried a P38T since they came out as a back up.
Mine was the first Gen. I sent it back to Keltec for an upgrade to the newer version.
They replaced everything except the original block.
Throated and polished the feed ramp.
It's never missed a shot with the exception of some old ammo that went under water.
I looked at the LCP. For me, the trigger was much worse that my P38T.
I passed on it. Dave N
8/14/2012 5:44:47 AM EDT
[#7]
I like my P3AT except you can short stroke the trigger. Treat it like DAO and no problems. The trigger is long but smooth. Not as good as a KAhr but surprisingly nice for the cost.
8/14/2012 5:52:15 AM EDT
[#8]
The LCP doesn't do anything the P3AT does, and it costs more.  I bought the P3AT, though once the novelty wore off I really only carry it when I go out for a run around the subdivision.  Mine does not like JHPs unless it is very well lubricated, and it's much harder to shoot than something like a G26 or M&P Shield.
8/14/2012 7:31:28 AM EDT
[#9]
i've always liked the looks and size of my lcp, but i have a problem of hitting the mag release randomly, so it is a range only gun...and it is not a very fun range gun.
8/14/2012 1:14:34 PM EDT
[#10]
If you have a P3AT why not get another for you and the other for your wife .... uniform mag interchangeability so in the event you need backup mag your wife has same mag as you.
8/14/2012 1:47:47 PM EDT
[#11]
Keep the S&W 60.

Save money and buy a micro-auto if you must. But don't ditch the 60.

Thank me later

-JC
8/14/2012 4:15:24 PM EDT
[#12]
I do agree with that. I would keep the M60
8/14/2012 4:44:38 PM EDT
[#13]
If you are going to get one I would go with the P3AT or you could check out I.O. Hellcat.  I have a P3AT and the I.O. and my wife carries a LCP.  All three run well.
 
8/14/2012 5:25:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I do agree with that. I would keep the M60


Yeah, but it's heavy.  I just don't think I want to carry it anymore.  I've probably bought and sold 4 of them over the years and each time at a profit.  I am at that stage in life where my comfort and convenience matters.
8/14/2012 6:28:48 PM EDT
[#15]
I'll take a Ruger product over a Keltec IMO

Not a huge price difference but one has a better company track record for QC and CS.
8/14/2012 9:15:20 PM EDT
[#16]
I had 2 P3ATs and a PF-9...I sold the P3AT because the 9 was almost as easy to carry.  I sold the 9 to buy an S&W Shield.
Turns out, the Shield is a bit too big and heavy for pocket carry, so I wanted another .380.
I noticed the LCPs at the store had a variety of how well the slide fit on the frame.  I wanted one that looked like a 10 (in fit), but it was a display.  I got one that looked like an 8.5...better than the other two display guns though.  
With the NEW Hogue Handall HYBRID grip, a 12# recoil spring and a steel recoil rod, this gun feels and shoots WAY better than my old KT P3AT (which just had a Handall Jr upside down and trimmed on it).
Impact Guns ha a +1 grip extension, and Galloway will have one soon.

It just feels a bit more refined and sturdy than my KT....but it could be psychological.  You read so much anti-KT stuff online that it plants seeds of doubts––it did for me anyway, regardless of the fact that both guns were 100% even trying to get them to jam via limpwristing, etc.
8/14/2012 9:36:10 PM EDT
[#17]
I have a LCP and like it.  The Keltec a friend of mine has is less refined but he claims it works 100%.
8/15/2012 4:35:34 AM EDT
[#18]
My LCP was 100% reliable over 300rds

The only reason I sold it was because I realized a mouse gun is just not for me

8/15/2012 5:40:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I'll take a Ruger product over a Keltec IMO

Not a huge price difference but one has a better company track record for QC and CS stealing other people's ideas.


As far as customer service, you're going to have a hard time finding a company with better CS than Kel-Tec.  Both pistols are functionally identical; the only difference is that one is a little nicer, a little heavier, and more expensive than the other.
8/15/2012 6:26:22 AM EDT
[#20]
Not to mention that Ruger up and stole the design for their pistol from Keltec
8/15/2012 8:27:38 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'll take a Ruger product over a Keltec IMO

Not a huge price difference but one has a better company track record for QC and CS stealing other people's ideas.


As far as customer service, you're going to have a hard time finding a company with better CS than Kel-Tec.  Both pistols are functionally identical; the only difference is that one is a little nicer, a little heavier, and more expensive than the other.


As far as customer service, I'd say Smith and Wesson has them all beat IMO. I don't know why you crossed out QC, I've seen plenty of Kel-Tec problems in person and never a failure of a Ruger outside of one bag magazine. Not to mention all the horror stories I've read with hit or miss quality from Kel-Tec.
8/27/2012 2:19:01 AM EDT
[#22]




Quoted:

I'll take a Ruger product over a Keltec IMO



Not a huge price difference but one has a better company track record for QC and CS.


Seriously?  Ruger?  The company that couldn't even competently copy the P3AT and had to immediately recall their copy (LCP)?



The joke is that Ruger issues a recall for their new products simultaneously with announcing them - only it really isn't a joke.



8/27/2012 3:38:31 AM EDT
[#23]
of the 2 mentioned, I prefer the lcp. But I wouldnt sell the Smith to fund either one. But I do understand. my lcp is easy to carry, but for me would be a poor choice for anything outside of 10 to 15 feet. Im not talking about standing in front of a target at the range. I consider my lcp half a notch above a knife for self defense. If you consider a keltec, think about the pf9. Or a Kahr cw9.
8/27/2012 5:50:09 AM EDT
[#24]
Although I've never held or handled a P3AT, I do have an LCP that I occasionally use for pocket carry when I can't have a gun on me but still want a gun. I have about 250 rds through it, mostly cheap FMJ, and it runs very well. If you are used to the trigger on your M60, the LCP should work out well for you. The trigger, on mine anyway, is kinda long, but not real heavy, and you have to completely release it for it to reset. It acts just like a revolver trigger, which should work out pretty well for you. Sights admittedly suck real hard, but if I take my time, I have no problems with hits clear out to 25yds. At the closer ranges you would be most likely to actually use the LCP,fast, accurate hits are pretty easy, as long as you treat the trigger like a revolver trigger and not like, say, a Glock trigger. It will never replace my other carry guns like my G26, but for what it is, it works pretty well.

Bub75
8/27/2012 6:31:12 AM EDT
[#25]
I will go against the grain and suggest a Sig P238

Mine will be here Tuesday

Good sights - check (night sights to boot)
Slide stop - check
Reliable - check
Good trigger - check
Light - check
Holster options - check

Whats not to love?

8/27/2012 7:50:52 AM EDT
[#26]
I have a P3AT that has been 100%. I run with it all the time. I'm a Ruger fanboy and don't see the point in spending more on the Ruger LCP.