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2/19/2012 8:39:22 AM EDT
I am looking at getting my first hand gun.  Not exactly sure what i want but my limit is around 600 give or take just depends on what i find.  Im looking at something that i might use as a carry piece possibly.  The few that i have been looking at are the fn fnx and the fns was not sure what the differences are between the two.   Also the beretta 90 two, glock 19 or 17,  xdm 9 preferably the 3.8 inch.  Im looking for some input and some other options which im sure im leaving some out.  And yes i know i need to get out and actually hold them before i make a final choice as every gun has a different feel.
2/19/2012 8:44:50 AM EDT
[#1]
I like, in no particular order:



Walther PPQ

Walther PPS

Sig P239

Kahr K9

Kahr P9

Glock 19
2/19/2012 9:00:51 AM EDT
[#2]
yah i just took a look at the walther ppq and that gun looks like its in the running now to as long as i can get my hands on one.
2/19/2012 9:33:04 AM EDT
[#3]
does anyone have any input on the fnx or the fns?
2/19/2012 9:56:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
does anyone have any input on the fnx or the fns?


They're big, but easy to shoot well and accurate.

I would skip the 90-two and look into a 92fs or PX4.
2/19/2012 10:02:56 AM EDT
[#5]
has there been problems with the 90 two's?  And i havent heard anything good about the storms just a few bad things so i was not sure about them over the others i mentioned
2/19/2012 10:54:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
has there been problems with the 90 two's?  And i havent heard anything good about the storms just a few bad things so i was not sure about them over the others i mentioned


More aftermarket support for 92fs plus 90-'s are usually more expensive. I have a PX4 with over 2000 rounds no issues, only concern I have with it is the cost of magazines and not a large selection of holsters.

The only issues i've ever heard about with the Storm are trigger "sting" (never happened to me) and some are finicky with steel cased ammo.
2/19/2012 10:57:48 AM EDT
[#7]
well what about the storm compared to the other ones listed
2/19/2012 11:49:51 AM EDT
[#8]
Glock 19.






Mags are widely available and relatively cheap. Parts are available and can be installed by the owner. 9mm ammo is more affordable than other calibers but still is effective with modern HPs. G19 size is a good balance between a full size range/bedside gun and a subcompact carry piece.











 
2/19/2012 12:28:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
Glock 19.

Mags are widely available and relatively cheap. Parts are available and can be installed by the owner. 9mm ammo is more affordable than other calibers but still is effective with modern HPs. G19 size is a good balance between a full size range/bedside gun and a subcompact carry piece.


 


This, every bit of it.
2/19/2012 1:45:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Glock 19 G3 or G4 made in the last 2 months. Early G4s had problems the new ones are good to go. Also last years g3 had problems. Many many aftermarket parts and holsters. and you can get 10,15,17,33rnd mags for it.

JCS
2/19/2012 2:05:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Coonan .357 auto loader.

2/19/2012 2:23:02 PM EDT
[#12]
seems like there are alot of glock people out there how would you tell when the one you are buying was made so you dont run into tthat problem and also that coonan is a little out of my budget
2/19/2012 2:42:15 PM EDT
[#13]
the ppq is getting farther up the list the more i read about it but i couldnt find much to customize it
2/19/2012 2:48:11 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
seems like there are alot of glock people out there how would you tell when the one you are buying was made so you dont run into tthat problem and also that coonan is a little out of my budget


See THIS and THIS

Should help on what to look for.

JCS

2/19/2012 3:57:40 PM EDT
[#15]
so g19, ppq, xdm, px4 so far is what the list is made up of thanks for the info so far everyone
2/19/2012 4:25:40 PM EDT
[#16]
also what about the cz 75 sp-01 phantom?
2/19/2012 4:34:20 PM EDT
[#17]
G19 -  its about the perfect balance of capacity and size and totally reliable
2/19/2012 5:36:05 PM EDT
[#18]
G19 is the best option IMHO.
2/19/2012 6:00:06 PM EDT
[#19]
ya that seems to be what everyone here is saying
2/20/2012 4:34:16 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
G19 is the best option IMHO.


2/20/2012 4:47:30 AM EDT
[#21]
Not trying to detract from your original post or anything, but how much shooting experience do you have? Just thinking it may be wiser to buy a 22LR plinker and learn fundamentals first if you do not already have that.

Of the ones you have listed, personally, I would go with the XDM-9, but that's just me. I personally like the way they shoot & feel, and have never been a huge Glock fan-boy. Now don't get me wrong, Glocks ARE good guns (not trying to start a flame war), but I just prefer the grip design of the XDM to the Glock, just a personal preference.

I have heard very good things about the FN's, and I would say go with the FNX (over the FNP) as the FNX was supposedly the "new and improved" version of the FNP.. From what i have read, they just refined the FNP to make it a little better, but what exactly they refined, I do not know. I do know that I have heard good things about the gun across the board though.

As far as the Beretta 90-Two, though it is a cool looking gun, the size of it may make it harder to conceal. I know, I know, people can conceal just about anything with the proper clothing, but it will be allot easier with a slimmer / more compact gun, so think about that when looking at handguns.

And as far as the "hold them all before deciding", that is a KEY thing to do when buying a gun, especially your first. You want the gun to fit and feel natural, as that will build your confidence, and make you want to shoot it more and train with it.
2/20/2012 4:48:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
G19 is the best option IMHO.




Glock 19, your final answer??? LOL

I bet you woulda put that as an answer even if it wasn't in his list LMAO
2/20/2012 4:53:37 AM EDT
[#23]
at 600 bucks you should consider adding a little dough and getting a battery if guns- one size does not fit all for concealed carry- plus you also need a good .22 for practice cheaply and learning fundamentals. this would be my list:
"regular size" carry glock 19, used 3rd gen smith and wesson, sig p6 or 228. don't even think of buying new- great consdition used guns are a lot cheaper and nearly always work fine.
small concealment gun- kel tec p380
trainer ruger standard auto
you can get all the above used with support gear (holsters spare mags etc ) for well under a grand.

another option -revolvers-
k frame smith + j frame smith = speedloaders/hosters etc well within your 600 budget
2/20/2012 4:57:22 AM EDT
[#24]
Originally Posted By ––bullseye––:
Glock 19.

Mags are widely available and relatively cheap. Parts are available and can be installed by the owner. 9mm ammo is more affordable than other calibers but still is effective with modern HPs. G19 size is a good balance between a full size range/bedside gun and a subcompact carry piece.


 


yup
2/20/2012 4:59:06 AM EDT
[#25]
HK P2000

2/20/2012 4:59:32 AM EDT
[#26]
My vote would've been the G19 a few months ago, but I'm going to stray from the herd here and say M&P 9 - but you'll need to add an aftermarket trigger.
2/20/2012 7:17:26 AM EDT
[#28]
i have some shooting back round with just going to the range with some of my friends and shooting what they had.  Ive only shot a .44 mag not sure what brand but it was a older revolver and a beretta m9.  other than that just rifles and shotguns i guess which i own a few of.
Aas of now the budget i have is all im willing to spend unless i make it to a gun show and find some good deals then i might up it.  
Im also not really looking for just a ccw thats why im looking at some of the bigger models such as the fnx.  I will buy others down the road just looking to get started and get some more experience than what i have mainly my reasons with going with the nine for right now till i feel more comfortable with something bigger.  I appreciate all the input from everyone.

so the list as it stand
ppq
xdm9
fnx
g19
possibly m&p 9
2/20/2012 8:26:03 AM EDT
[#29]
I just got an FNX-9 and I love it!  Fits great in my hand, has 4 back straps, 3 mags and is very close in size to the G19 but holds 17+1.  Very easy to break down and clean too.  You could also look at the M & Ps.
2/20/2012 9:00:34 AM EDT
[#30]
does anyone know what is a decent price for the ones listed possibly new and used?
2/20/2012 11:44:05 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
G19 -  its about the perfect balance of capacity and size and totally reliable


Bingo
2/20/2012 12:30:53 PM EDT
[#32]
has anyone used buds gun shop online?
2/20/2012 2:12:52 PM EDT
[#33]
I kind of like the Ruger LC9 as a good reliable carry piece!    

2/20/2012 2:14:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
has anyone used buds gun shop online?


Alot of folks on here buy from Buds. They are good to go and usually have some of the better prices.

JCS
2/20/2012 2:22:10 PM EDT
[#35]



Quoted:


has anyone used buds gun shop online?


I got my nearly mint gen2 G19 for less than $400 on gunbroker. Bud's would be my choice for a new pistol.

 
2/20/2012 2:57:04 PM EDT
[#36]
M&P 9mm or gen3 G19.   HK is out of your price range P30
2/20/2012 2:57:22 PM EDT
[#37]



Quoted:


has anyone used buds gun shop online?


I got my S&W M&P 15-22 from them.

 



They're charging $500 for a Glock, which is probably close to the going rate. Little rich for my tastes. I'd keep an eye out locally for a little better price (Equipment Exhange, used guns at stores, etc).
2/20/2012 4:55:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
the coonan is a little out of my budget


It's quite reasonable when you comparing it to an Ed Brown or a Wilson Combat, and the ability to shoot .38 specials makes it cost effective to shoot.


2/20/2012 6:20:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Anyone who says the FNS or FNX are large has never held one.

They roughly split the difference between a G19 and G17, as in slide length of a G19 with the capacity of a G17.

My FNs have been reliable and accurate.

You could do a lot worse.
2/20/2012 8:05:43 PM EDT
[#40]
ya i really like the look of the fnx havent got the chance to hold one and have not heard anything bad about them either  but i have held a glock at a gun show before not sure which gen but it was a bit bulky for my hand.

i would love to buy used but i am not exactly sure were to even look around here just moved here a few months back so online sources are all i have had time to check
2/21/2012 6:15:32 AM EDT
[#41]
in this order so far fnx ppq g19 m&p
2/21/2012 8:56:30 AM EDT
[#42]
is there anywhere to read reviews on any of these handguns
2/21/2012 9:31:04 AM EDT
[#43]
I don't even particularly like g19 but I know I would have been much better off buying a g19 for my first pistol, getting a holster, mags and sights, then shooting it a ton. When you've shot and trained enough that you don't suck, then think about buying a different gun that might suit your needs better.

Thing is, when you get to that point you'll likely realize you already have a perfectly good gun and will get better results just spending more time practicing and training vs buying something new.
2/21/2012 9:51:42 AM EDT
[#44]
thats my plan i can always get something better later its more about the price right now  and the fnx and ppq and some of the g19's are all about the same price point from what i have seen i would like to buy a used one of these if i can the g19 just not sure about the grip as i said i have held some glocks not sure what models but the grip was bigger on it and i have smaller hands
2/21/2012 10:25:15 AM EDT
[#45]





Quoted:



is there anywhere to read reviews on any of these handguns







Not the precise models in all cases, but illustrations of the different platforms none the less....















 






























 
2/21/2012 10:27:50 AM EDT
[#46]
thanks for the videos quick question should i be looking at a 9mm or a 40
2/21/2012 10:33:49 AM EDT
[#47]



Quoted:


thanks for the videos quick question should i be looking at a 9mm or a 40



I would DEFINITELY go 9mm. Practice ammo is noticeably cheaper. With modern hollowpoints  (Speer Gold Dot, Winchester Ranger T, Federal HST) the expansion on the 9mm all but negates the size advantage of the .40.

 



I've fired a fair amount of 9mm and .40 and really don't see a major advantage to .40. You will be able to afford to shoot more ammo with the 9mm (always a good thing when you're learning to shoot) and the recoil is more manageable on the 9mm (not that it's horrible with the .40, but it can be a bit snappy for a new shooter).
2/21/2012 10:50:17 AM EDT
[#48]
ok 9 it is then
2/22/2012 4:29:35 AM EDT
[#49]
the video where he is shooting the ppq he seems to really like the gun
2/22/2012 12:49:20 PM EDT
[#50]
Step 1: Decide what you like.





Go to a gun shop and have them place all of these pistols in front of you.


- Glock 17


- Glock 19


- Colt or Springfield (or similar quality) 1911.


- Whatever 9mm Sig makes.


- Whatever 9mm S&W makes.


- Whatever 9mm H&K makes.





Step 2: Do some dry fire at the shop, get a feel for them. If possible (indoor range/shop with rentals) shoot them all. If you're lucky one of those will fit you like a glove and feel like a natural extension of your hand (as handguns are supposed to feel).





Step 3: Buy that one.



ETA: I put the 1911 in there because there are many shooters who will try the 1911 and never switch back. It's best to determine if you are one of those people right off the bat before buying guns you inevitably sell at a loss.

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