Posted: 11/23/2004 12:08:56 AM EDT
| I have only shot a Glock once but from what I remember it must be cocked for it to fire. What I want to know is why you cant just pull the trigger like a double action revolver. I guess I am comparing it to my old Taurus PT-145 that you could pull the trigger over and over without cocking it and it would still go click everytime. I have been told the Taurus is a Glock copy is this correct or am I comparing two completely different systems. I also have a S&W Sigma that I have also been told is a Glock copy and when I look at it it seems like it must be cocked about a 1/4 inch to catch on the hammer. Is Glock the same way? If so why did they make it that way? One last question is how does a glock function in full-auto? Im not trying to ask how to convert one but if it is anything like either my S&W or Taurus it doesnt seem like it would be able to fire without the motion pulling the trigger. Like I said Im have no intentions of trying to convert one or finding out how it just seems like the motion of pulling the trigger is what pulls back the hammer or fireing pin. Hopefully you guys can set me straight. |
using your own words:
Ya hit the nail on the head w/ this statement! Your Taurus is a copy of the Beretta....., and your Sigma is a piss-poor attempted Glock copy by S&W, which most of us classify in the"boat-anchor" catagory. No the triggers are not the same as again the S&W sucks. FA Glocks require a modification to pistol in the slide cover plate area and the best place for these questions are over at: www.glocktalk.com Mike |
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The glock functions very well in full auto. Beyond that you have no need to know. myweb.cableone.net/uziforme/TWOGLOCKS.WMV |
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Yes you have to retract the slide to "set" the trigger, and pulling the trigger won't "double strike" the primer of the first attempt was a dud. So what. If the round is a dud, it likely won't go off a second time either. And you've just wasted precious time trying. So just jack the slide, get rid of the bum round, and keep going. This is what most modern shooting schools are teaching. Besides, when was the last time you saw a dud centerfire round? You're needlessly worrying. |
| Im not really worried about it as I dont really see it being a problem. Im just curious because like I said I have only shot one once and never really had a chance to compare it to other guns I am familier with. I know Im probably not using the best example above but at the time those were the only two I had available that seemed somewhat similar. Also mr_wilson I think you are talking about the PT92 which is a beretta copy but the PT-145 surely doesnt seem like a Beretta. I hope no one thinks Im bashing Glock because Im not Im just curions about how they work. |
| I am just curious about the double action trigger being capable of full-auto. The reason why is because when I think of double action I think of a revolver and I just cant picture how it would work. Is there sometype of catch that catches the firing pin as the slide goes back and then releases it appon closing? Like I said I have no intentions of trying to modify any type of weapon and if I did it would probably be something Im familier with other than a Glock. |
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Um...guys...the site has a well-known policy of not discussing full-auto modifications, for liability purposes. Personally, I don't care if you've got a 55 gallon barrel full of DIAS's in your garage, but don't discuss illegal full-auto here, even in hypotheticals. |
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When you think of a glock as a double action, that is your first mistake, it's not. There is no hammer in a glock, there is a spring loaded striker that when pulled back and released hits the primer. When you shoot the glock and it cycles and you are still holding the trigger back the striker is cocked and ready to be released again once again hitting the primer, it is not untill you release the trigger that the striker is not prepped for hitting the primer. I have the knowledge and it's my knowledge to do with as I please so tough shit. If the original poster wants to go into the M16 forum and discuss the shit out of things he can legally have, he will get all the answers he can handle. We are not going to discuss making pipe bombs, here, or anything else illegal. Unless of course that illegal activity involves shooting cats, then that would be fair game. |
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OMG! Those "directions" were so specific, I'm going to go out and build a fully automatic glock tomorrow! Calm down. I learned something I didn't know, and that something wasn't how to make a full-auto glock. It just gave me more of a clue as to how a glock functions. |
| Thanks all you guys for the help. That did clear a few things up. I guess I have heard to many people refer to Glocks as double action and just kept thinking of something like a revolver. Correct me if Im wrong but it sounds like when you pull the slide back the striker catches and is then put into the cocked position once the slide slams forward, then when the trigger is pulled the striker is released causing the gun to fire and the slide to slam back reseting the striker back to the cocked position. I hope that made a little since. |