[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Kerry or Bush (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 8/10/2004 9:56:30 PM EDT
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WRONG FORUM... Put this in GENERAL DISCUSSION.... www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=1&f=5 IBTL! |
Well this is going to get locked anyway but I find it pretty funny that some idiots actually believe the Kerry is pro gun  I read somewhere the other day that some dumb bitch in NJ thinks that Mikey Moore is pro-gun!If I ran for office one of my campaign promises would be that if I was elected, I would try to pass a law that would earn any citizen a large award for shooting anybody proven to be that stupid! 
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I am amazed to see 8 votes for Kerry and a website that is devoted to firearms and the 2nd Amendment. I think the word still needs to get out that Kerry and the Democrats are bad news when it comes to our firearm rights. Lets keep America strong! Vote for Bush in 2004 |
That just goes to show you how many  's we have on this site.
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Both suck. Bush tried to take my overtime money, he gives large tax breaks to the rich and cooperations while trying to rob me. He is also a liar. Not to mention he said he would sign a AWB extension. Kerry has a long history against gun rights. But his military record is better than Bush's. At least he was not awol from the national guard. I don't like either choice. I wish we have a good canidate running. Pat |
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He didnt try to take away your overtime. Read it for yourself and quit listening to the LYING fuckheads of the AFLCIO. Not trying to look out for the rich elite either. Do you or anyone you know own a small business? If you make $200K per year profit you're rich by the standard. I guess nobody invests any profit back into their businesses? I make $60K per year, I got the tax break, didnt you? I'm not a large corporation and he didnt rob me.... I think you've been smoking too much of something.... Dont take everything at face value. If you're LE as it would appear by the lines under your post then you should know how to dig a little. I personally am paid by the hour and when I go over 40 or over 8 I get paid for it. Even if federal law didnt have it at all it's in our contract. Most people dont have a clue, they just parrot what they heard on CNN or read in their union dribble rag. Btw, I'm a union member too and my particular union doesnt belong to AFSCME or the bigger BS organizations. I wish more would ditch the liberal party line shit.... ohh I could go on and on and on...... Bush wasnt AWOL either. Dude you really should figure this stuff out.... Michael Moore is not a legitimate news source he's a fat, greasy lying pussball. |
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He didnt try to take away your overtime. END QUOTE Yes he did he exempted first responders like Cops (me) Fire EMS ext. He also exempted all making over 65000. Which in my are is amost poverty level. He recently excluded police fire and other first responders and upped the limit to 100000. But only after a lot of lobbing. Pat |
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Glockfan, While Bush is not perfect, he is a hell of a lot better than Kerry. Kerry recently voted to ban high power rifle ammo(ie: 30-06 hunting ammo), and many more firearms related issues. So, in the best interest of our firearms rights, the ONLY person worth voting for is George W. Bush. Maybe a new Bush slogan should be: "While I'm not perfect, I'm better than the other idiot." Steve |
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Bush lied about his military erecord?hock.gif Kerry hasn't lied about his? Most of the people who served in his unit consider him something less than a liar! Kerry's so anti-gun its unreal! I dont think G.W is conservitive enough but Kerry is a complete farce! Kerry's record speaks for itself ban all firarms ,cut all defence/intellegence spending and back the U.N. to the hilt (sure the U.N. dosent care about you owning weaons) if people keep buying this union/media line (yes I belong to a union biggest waste of 100 something dollars a month)we can kiss our 2nd admendment rights and most others goodbye! I can only speak from my point of view but I have saved money on my taxes the last couple of years. Kerry will take it right back he has already stated as much. If any of you out there havent registered to vote please due because if Kerry wins this will be a great place to talk about the weapons we owned. Sorry for the rant but if we elect Kerry I fear for this country. Steve. |
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BUSH LIED!!! Sorry guys, I had to do it  By definition, politicians are liars so to single one out seems a little biased in my book. Kerry is a liar too. I will agree with you GlockFan (I can't believe I just said that), I wish someone else was running, like Senator Larry Craig for instance! |
I agree with you 100% Senator Craig would be a serious step up from the TWO bad choices we have to pick from now. |
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Bush may have been AWOL, but he has never used his military record for a running platform. We already know he will be there to support military issues (as he as already done), so he doesn't need to say, "well I served in the military so I can handle leading a war" Kerry, on the other hand, HAS made his pitiful excuse for a military record his primary running platform. That's because he would like us all to think that he can run a better war than GW. A more "sensitive" war at that. He has not been able to run on his political background, because it sucks. He can't figure out whether he's coming or going. If he was coming and the media wanted him to go, he would claim he was going all along. Clearly, Bush isn't the best president that the U.S. has ever had, but John F*king Kerry is nobody's answer... |
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Quoted: Both suck. Bush tried to take my overtime money, he gives large tax breaks to the rich and cooperations while trying to rob me. He is also a liar. Not to mention he said he would sign a AWB extension. Kerry has a long history against gun rights. But his military record is better than Bush's. At least he was not awol from the national guard. Kerry can not go 10 minutes with out telling a lie, that is who he is a total liar. Bush did say that he would sign the AWB if it came to his desk....meaning DO NOT LET THIS GET TO MY DESK! How many gun control bills have been pushed, and passed since Bush has been President? John Kerry and his cheerleader John Edwards flew back to DC just to vote for the AWB extension. I just can not see how anyone could vote for Kerry and be pro gun at the sametime. Chris |
I don't think GlockFan said he was going to vote for Kerry. I like Bush but I'm not entirely thrilled with everything he's done/does but there is no way I'd vote for Kerry. I would much rather see a guy like Craig run but if this is what we have to work with then so be it. The democraps are really screwed if Kerry is the best they can come up with. |
Why don't you prove he WAS NOT? |
Because the burden of proof is upon the accuser and not myself. I don't have to make my case, the accuser must make his of be subject to being called a liar. Anyone with any sense knows you can't prove negative. That is why in court, it is the responsibility of the prosecutor to prove that the defendant comitted the crime in question. But, by your standard of proof: I say you stole gasoline twenty three times this past year. PROVE THAT YOU DIDN'T! IF YOU CAN NOT, YOU ARE TO BE BRANDED A GAS THIEF BY YOUR STANDARD! |
And Kerry is on the wrong side of most of those too! Which makes voting for him even worse! Remember! The most liberal presidential candidate ever! He makes Jimmy Carter look like Superman! |
Name a single one where Kerry will be better, and back it up with a fact not propaganda. |
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Name a single one where Kerry will be better, and back it up with a fact not propaganda. END QUOTE Fact Bush tried to change overtime exemption laws that would have made millions of hardworking middle class people overtime inelidgable. Fact Millions of jobs have been lost because of Bushes economic policys. Fact Bush has been one of the worst presidents for the enviroment. Fact Bush said he would vote for the AWB. Just fact not probaganda. Pat |
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--Quoted:-- Name a single one where Kerry will be better, and back it up with a fact not propaganda. END QUOTE ------ ---Fact Millions of jobs have been lost because of Bushes economic policys. --- FACT, UnEmployment is at 5.5%, lower then when clinton left office --Fact Bush has been one of the worst presidents for the enviroment. -- How so? I sure never heard of him repealing any EPA laws. ---Fact Bush said he would vote for the AWB. --- We asked where Kerry would be better. Bush said he would SIGN it, he has no vote. That was a political move. He knew damn well it wasnt getting through the house, so he said it because it may sway a few anti-gun nutjobs to vote for him. If he really wanted it passed, i am sure he would have let congress know, and the NRA probably wouldnt be speaking so highly of him now would they. Just fact not probaganda. Maybe one fact, the one about overtime, i didn't comment because i know nothing about it, but since you are 0/3 at this point, i wont give you the benefit of the doubt. |
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--Fact Bush has been one of the worst presidents for the enviroment. -- How so? I sure never heard of him repealing any EPA laws. END QUOTE Check again he has repealed several laws. One of the issues Bush is most critized for is his handling of the enviroment. Fact your 5.5% figure does not cover those how have lost good jobs and and had to get work in lower paying service industry areas. Fact is he has been bad for working americans. SNIP ---Fact Bush said he would vote for the AWB. --- We asked where Kerry would be better. Bush said he would SIGN it, he has no vote. That was a political move. He knew damn well it wasnt getting through the house, so he said it because it may sway a few anti-gun nutjobs to vote for him. If he really wanted it passed, i am sure he would have let congress know, and the NRA probably wouldnt be speaking so highly of him now would they. END QUOTE Political or not he said he supportes it. Just like Kerry not difference. As for the overtime thing. Like the other issues look it up and educate yourself. Don't take my word for it or the republican party's or the democratic party's word. Become an informed voter. The funny thing is your just spouting propaganda yourself. Pat |
At least we know one that voted for Kerry in the poll! You are correct, there are more important issues. Unfortunately for you Kerry fans he has yet to reveal his plan(s) on those issues. Face it, Kerry is worthless. You can argue all day long that Bush is worthless and I won't say a word but don't even try and portray Kerry as "da man"! Cuz that guy is so far out in left field even the democraps are disappointed in him. |