Posted: 10/20/2009 2:22:36 PM EDT
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Just saw one in Cablela's, what up w the Omega trigger? priced lower than the others in the case. buy or pass???? thanks
billy |
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I believe it was a 75B NS if I recall correctly.
I saw the blurb on the site indicating it was less parts, easier to maintain, etc. all the good stuff. I really want to know if it works better or is it just a 'short cut' if you follow my drift. thanks for any help billy boy |
| I've had both a standard 75B and an Omega. There are less parts in the Omega. Personally, due to my long fingers, I'm not a fan of the black curved trigger, and there is not an option for the Omega guns. I worked on my Omega (cut the hammer hooks, cut FPB spring, 15lb hammer spring, and 11lb recoil spring) it has a ridiculously light SA trigger and a reasonably smooth DA. The Omega is easier to get apart and comes with an extended mag release. I'd go with the one that fits your hand better. I like the SP-01 better than both. |
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Here is a thread about the CZ-75B w/ Omega trigger. Unfortunately he had a lot of trouble with his, and traded it out for a regular 75B
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=37&t=73997 |
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I picked one up recently and have been very pleased with it. Zero issues at the range starting with the first round through the gun - I'm at around 600 rounds thus far. No feed problems, FTF, FTE, etc. with PMC, WWB, Federal FMJ or Gold Dots. I am using all factory mags (5) and tested function with each with no issues. It shoots well, sights were dead on, and the single action is very nice (double could use some work though). I did replace the guide rod with steel (personal preference only) and will eventually work on cleaning up the action just a bit.
Although some others have reported issues I am very happy with mine and look forward to years of CZ quality... YMMV and all that... 
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| I have a CZ 75 with the omega trigger, so far over 500 rounds with no problems using the two factory mags it came with ( I know I need at least 4 more mags ). IIRC the guy here that was having problems with his didnt start having the problem until he used an aftermarket mag that was causing a spring in the mag well to come loose. |
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IIRC the guy here that was having problems with his didnt start having the problem until he used an aftermarket mag that was causing a spring in the mag well to come loose. The factory mags were also found to cause it. It's just a very poor setup - there is barely any clearance between the mag and the trigger bar spring. And regardless of mag clearance, it's still an extremely fragile setup, especially when compared to the standard 75/75B configuration. (Also, mine turned out to be genuinely defective or otherwise not worth the time to repair, hence why I got a replacement.) Finally, the triggers really aren't that great. They have a long travel in both DA and SA that is completely unavoidable due to changes in the design. The "improvements" in SA out-of-the-box are really more a testament to the (Shadow) hammer used, not the underlying trigger system. If I were looking for a new traditional DA/SA 75 right now, I'd go for a new-model matte stainless. They incorporate the SA-style frame, plus an ambi safety, extended magazine catch and drop-free "brake". All with the same, proven 75B internals. |
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IIRC the guy here that was having problems with his didnt start having the problem until he used an aftermarket mag that was causing a spring in the mag well to come loose. The factory mags were also found to cause it. It's just a very poor setup - there is barely any clearance between the mag and the trigger bar spring. And regardless of mag clearance, it's still an extremely fragile setup, especially when compared to the standard 75/75B configuration. (Also, mine turned out to be genuinely defective or otherwise not worth the time to repair, hence why I got a replacement.) Finally, the triggers really aren't that great. They have a long travel in both DA and SA that is completely unavoidable due to changes in the design. The "improvements" in SA out-of-the-box are really more a testament to the (Shadow) hammer used, not the underlying trigger system. If I were looking for a new traditional DA/SA 75 right now, I'd go for a new-model matte stainless. They incorporate the SA-style frame, plus an ambi safety, extended magazine catch and drop-free "brake". All with the same, proven 75B internals. You were the one I was thinking of 
IIRC though the problem started when using aftermarket mags though. To your knowledge is the problem you had widespread among the omega pistols, or do you think yours was truly defective? I ran another 100 rounds through mine today with no problems. I love this pistol and hope to have no problems with it. |
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To your knowledge is the problem you had widespread among the omega pistols, or do you think yours was truly defective? There are inherent flaws in the design, IMO. The trigger bar and spring setup are nowhere near as robust as the original 75/75B design. That the clearance between the magazine is so small makes problems such as mine easy to understand. The change in the FPB system also negatively affects the trigger travel, and cannot be rectified in any simple manner (trying to do an "Omega Shadow" would require a completely new intermediate piece to be designed and manufactured, and still woudln't bring the total travel down). |
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I've got one in new, unfired condition. I got it before the issues with mecgar mags came out, which pissed me off, furthermore, I called CZ and asked about just replacing ALL the internals with 75B parts, but apparently thats not a possibility either.
For a combat pistol, the trigger isn't bad, it certainly isn't great either, and the shadow model hammer is the only reason the SA pull is as nice as it is. I've got an SP01 with the CZ comp hammer and 85C trigger, stock springs, and that gun is nice. Real real nice. The Omega75 is a decent gun, but I'm probably going to get rid of it, either for a standard 75B or one of the compact models. There have been many issues with the Omega triggers in the P07's having failures as well. I hate to say it, but I'd pass. |