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7/20/2019 12:33:53 PM EDT
Never owned a CZ before so I bought a CZ 2075 RAMI about a month ago. Love everything I've seen about it.

That said, so far this pistol has been more unreliable than, literally, all my other pistols combined. HK, Walther, S&W, Glock, FN largely reflect my pistol collection. Not to mention dozens of previous pistols I've parted with. I can never recall a single time where any of them weren't 100% reliable right out of the box.

I can count failures on one hand....for all of them, over many years. All, I would attribute to the ammo.

With the CZ 2075 RAMI, It's been to the range twice. Roughly 400 rounds have been fired out of it, using two different types of ammo.. Speer Lawman, 147gr TMJ's and Winchester NATO 124gr FMJ.

Our of roughly 400 rounds, I would say the gun has gotten jammed up in a few ways while chambering between 15 and 20 times.

I'm kinda blown away how incredibly fucked up this gun is out of the box. I know CZ does pistols right....most of the time, but this sample size of one is an absolute turd at this point.

Anyone have any ideas outside of it just being a lemon?

The last time I had to send a gun back to the OEM to be fixed was in the days of the SIG 556. Never once before or after.
7/20/2019 2:01:55 PM EDT
[#1]
It happens.  
I’ve had a few lemons over the years.

Have you tried both mags that came with it?

I would likely just send it back to CZ.
7/20/2019 2:44:03 PM EDT
[#2]
The Achilles heel of CZ handguns are the springs

Sometimes CZ produces weak springs

I would get hold of the following Wolff springs.

Recoil spring, magazine spring and extractor spring.

From your description, I would suspect the magazine spring and perhaps the recoil spring

In a shorter pistol, a stout magazine spring is often needed in order to be able to present the cartridge in time before the slide closes.

The recoil and extractor springs will wear in time and you should always have spares
7/20/2019 5:46:50 PM EDT
[#3]
My EDC is a RAMI BD.  When I first got it, it would feed everything from the 10 rd magazine, but the 14 rd would have issues with leading edge of the HST's catching the bottom of the feed ramp.  Fmj's were fine with the 14 rd mags.

I noticed that the 14 rd spring tension was much less than the 10.  I upgraded to Wolff +5% 16 round springs.  I believe that the magazine spring wasn't keeping up with the short cycle time with the 3" barrel.

For carrying, I also switched to 124 gr +P Gold Dots.  I went +P to make sure that it was fully cycling since the RAMI recoil spring assembly is the same for 40 and 9 mm.  I went with the gold dots due to the rounded profile to reduce the likelihood that the cavity catches the bottom of the feed ramp.

My RAMI runs 100% this way with both magazines and the gold dots.
7/20/2019 11:48:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Wolf Springs doesn't list a spring for the 14 round 9mm 2075 RAMI. The fact that a brand new gun requires an overhaul of its springs is asinine. How about getting it right at the factory as a novel idea?

Beyond that, I came across this: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=1094.0

That thread is 12 years old and CZ apparently has never fixed the issue.

Looks like my situation isn't isolated.

Got to say, I'm really disappointed after reading so much CZ hype and getting a gun that can't confidently empty a single 14 round mag without a failure.

Like I said above, never once has this happened with any other pistol I've ever owned. There's no way in hell I'd carry this gun and that's exactly why I bought it.
7/21/2019 7:27:20 AM EDT
[#5]
The 14 round magazine is the compact magazine.  I actually went with the +5% full size spring (74261).

I bought my RAMI used, which is why I tried some problem solving before calling CZ USA. With your situation,  I would give them a call and let them make it right.  I agree that it's unacceptable for a new pistol to not be reliable.
8/5/2019 2:59:57 PM EDT
[#6]
My new RAMI was only reliable with the 10 round mags, the 14 rounders were gawd awful, 5 or 6 rounds diving into the feed ramp per magazine, and this was with FMJ ammo.

I put the stronger springs in, the ones made for a full size CZ mag, and that SEEMS to have fixed it so far, although I haven't wrung them out thoroughly as of yet. Still, I am still on the fence about carrying the little RAMI.......
8/5/2019 5:49:09 PM EDT
[#7]
Well I took a loss on mine and traded it in for a very boring but dead nuts reliable G43X.

Very disappointed in the RAMI, really liked everything about it. Though there may be tweaks that could get the gun to run reliably, I lost all confidence in it as a carry gun and simply won't take a chance on a finicky pistol.

So if any of you guys are interested, I have a JM Kydex IWB holster that should be coming in the near future that I now have zero need for.
8/5/2019 7:07:16 PM EDT
[#8]
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The Achilles heel of CZ handguns are the springs

Sometimes CZ produces weak springs

I would get hold of the following Wolff springs.

Recoil spring, magazine spring and extractor spring.

From your description, I would suspect the magazine spring and perhaps the recoil spring

In a shorter pistol, a stout magazine spring is often needed in order to be able to present the cartridge in time before the slide closes.

The recoil and extractor springs will wear in time and you should always have spares
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My RAMI has been 100% reliable with me and my friends shooting it, about 2-300 rounds. But I forgot to take the longer mag and only used the compact one. I've heard the longer mags can be kinda iffy.
8/6/2019 12:19:37 PM EDT
[#9]
That's disappointing.  I wonder if this issue is why I've seen CZ RAMI's pop up for sale, lightly used on a local gun sales forum?  I was sort of interested in this pistol, but probably should pass.