Posted: 8/28/2013 10:12:35 AM EDT
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Hello CZ friends, I'm looking to improve my CZ pistols and one of the areas of improvement is the trigger pull and reset length. There's really only two options and that's CZC and CGW.
I'm going to give CGW a try and plan on ordering the SRS-1 and the Race Hammer Kit for the Single Action. It looks like I don't need the 1485/T2 for a Single Action pistol Has anyone else gone this route? Any tips or tricks to ensure it works out of the gate? Appreciate any input. |
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I haven't, though I have had two CZs with the CZC competition hammer. They were both very nice, but I've also had two CZs with the stock hammer that were worked on by Matt Mink that were very nice too.
That said, the trigger on my 75SA is my favorite. It's stock, stock hammer, and the only modification it's seen has been a hell of a lot of pulls of the trigger, mostly with Kadet kits. |
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I haven't, though I have had two CZs with the CZC competition hammer. They were both very nice, but I've also had two CZs with the stock hammer that were worked on by Matt Mink that were very nice too. That said, the trigger on my 75SA is my favorite. It's stock, stock hammer, and the only modification it's seen has been a hell of a lot of pulls of the trigger, mostly with Kadet kits. I don't mind the initial take-up on the S/A but the reset is long. I've put a lot of rounds through S/A and it's probably as good as it's going to get without some new internals. It doesn't look good for Shadows to show up any time soon so we will see how nice of a trigger the S/A has after it's done. I'm going to swap out the factory sights also. |
I just put a cz custom competition hammer (needed to stay legal for uspsa production) and a CGW adjustable sear in my 75B. The trigger is amazing now - the adjustable sear makes it a piece of cake to get it right. It also has a 13lb mainspring, extended firing pin, and lightened firing pin spring. I'm still planning on adding lighter trigger return and firing pin block springs and the short reset disconnector from CGW. I also would like to try an 11lb mainspring to see if it will reliably set off primers. Once l that's all done the next thing will be the EZ drift sights. If you can't tell, I'm pretty impressed with CGW.
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Ale,
Im running 11.5lb springs in my guns with zero issues on factory ammo. Granted, i cant really set off Wolf reliably but that ammo is known to have super hard primers. All Federal, Winchester and Remington ammo has been set off with a smattering of zero issues between fiocchi, PMC and other assorted fare. |
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Ale, Im running 11.5lb springs in my guns with zero issues on factory ammo. Granted, i cant really set off Wolf reliably but that ammo is known to have super hard primers. All Federal, Winchester and Remington ammo has been set off with a smattering of zero issues between fiocchi, PMC and other assorted fare. That's good to know - this gun is for multigun and USPSA Production division, not self defense, so worst case scenario is a messed up score. I handload my own ammo so avoiding Wolf primers is no big deal. |
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Quoted: Hello CZ friends, I'm looking to improve my CZ pistols and one of the areas of improvement is the trigger pull and reset length. There's really only two options and that's CZC and CGW. I'm going to give CGW a try and plan on ordering the SRS-1 and the Race Hammer Kit for the Single Action. It looks like I don't need the 1485/T2 for a Single Action pistol Has anyone else gone this route? Any tips or tricks to ensure it works out of the gate? Appreciate any input. I got the modified Shadow hammer, and sear from there and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. Heres my take after dicking with everything that can be dicked with. If you are just worried about the SA pull, leave the hammer spring alone. I, myself, HATE the lighter hammer springs as it takes more pressure to actually pull the trigger spring than release the sear and it screwed up my follow up shots BAD since there was no discernible stop in the trigger movement. with the stock spring it's perfect, take up the trigger, and squeeze to fire when you feel resistance. Also get the reduced power trigger spring, it helps with the take up issue mentioned above, the flat SA trigger is also nice in this regard because you can adjust out almost all of the take up with the pre-travel stop screw. The solid firing pin block pin, and floating trigger pin are also worthwhile purchases, and get a starter punch for the hammer pin, you will need it. |
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I got the modified Shadow hammer, and sear from there and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. Heres my take after dicking with everything that can be dicked with. If you are just worried about the SA pull, leave the hammer spring alone. I, myself, HATE the lighter hammer springs as it takes more pressure to actually pull the trigger spring than release the sear and it screwed up my follow up shots BAD since there was no discernible stop in the trigger movement. with the stock spring it's perfect, take up the trigger, and squeeze to fire when you feel resistance. Also get the reduced power trigger spring, it helps with the take up issue mentioned above, the flat SA trigger is also nice in this regard because you can adjust out almost all of the take up with the pre-travel stop screw. The solid firing pin block pin, and floating trigger pin are also worthwhile purchases, and get a starter punch for the hammer pin, you will need it. Quoted:
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Hello CZ friends, I'm looking to improve my CZ pistols and one of the areas of improvement is the trigger pull and reset length. There's really only two options and that's CZC and CGW. I'm going to give CGW a try and plan on ordering the SRS-1 and the Race Hammer Kit for the Single Action. It looks like I don't need the 1485/T2 for a Single Action pistol Has anyone else gone this route? Any tips or tricks to ensure it works out of the gate? Appreciate any input. I got the modified Shadow hammer, and sear from there and have nothing but wonderful things to say about it. Heres my take after dicking with everything that can be dicked with. If you are just worried about the SA pull, leave the hammer spring alone. I, myself, HATE the lighter hammer springs as it takes more pressure to actually pull the trigger spring than release the sear and it screwed up my follow up shots BAD since there was no discernible stop in the trigger movement. with the stock spring it's perfect, take up the trigger, and squeeze to fire when you feel resistance. Also get the reduced power trigger spring, it helps with the take up issue mentioned above, the flat SA trigger is also nice in this regard because you can adjust out almost all of the take up with the pre-travel stop screw. The solid firing pin block pin, and floating trigger pin are also worthwhile purchases, and get a starter punch for the hammer pin, you will need it. Appreciate the input very much. I am only concerned with the SA trigger and am primarily trying to improve the rapid fire capabilities. The reset feels very long on most CZs and I had planned on trigger improvements from the get go with the CZ 75B S/A. Hopefully this gets me where I want to go. I plan on leaving the FPB alone for now. The parts arrived today, that some very fast shipping from CGW. |
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I just purchased the Ultra-lite/SD kit from CGW for my P-07. The double action is rough so I'm hoping for some significant improvement.
Would you all recommend the 11.5 or 13lb hammer spring that comes with it? I'm still trying to find someone to install it for me. ETA: parts should be here tuesday. |
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I just purchased the Ultra-lite/SD kit from CGW for my P-07. The double action is rough so I'm hoping for some significant improvement. Would you all recommend the 11.5 or 13lb hammer spring that comes with it? I'm still trying to find someone to install it for me. ETA: parts should be here tuesday. If you shoot any steel case ammo, I'd stay with as heavy as hammer spring as I could get by with due to the harder primers. |
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tag Ive been looking at getting a CZ for competition but the prices are nuts right now, I might just send in my 75B for the defensive package. any other reviews on them? The company gets nothing but rave reviews and my impression so far is that CGW is top notch. My parts were here in two days and they appear to be high quality. Here's another review: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=56206.0 If everything goes well with the Single Action, I plan on improving my Compact next with CGW parts. I'll definitely update when my SA is finished. |
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If you shoot any steel case ammo, I'd stay with as heavy as hammer spring as I could get by with due to the harder primers. Quoted:
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I just purchased the Ultra-lite/SD kit from CGW for my P-07. The double action is rough so I'm hoping for some significant improvement. Would you all recommend the 11.5 or 13lb hammer spring that comes with it? I'm still trying to find someone to install it for me. ETA: parts should be here tuesday. If you shoot any steel case ammo, I'd stay with as heavy as hammer spring as I could get by with due to the harder primers. Thanks. I need to find someone to install it all for me  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The SA is done and I have the good fortune to be able to compare it to the CZ Customs tweaked Compact L pistol.
IMO, the Cajun Gun Works SA trigger is superb and better than the CZC trigger. The CZC trigger/FCG still has hammer camming even with the race hammer and the CGW trigger with the CGW race hammer has zero camming when pulling the trigger. The CGW trigger has a slight amount of creep before it breaks but it's crisp and fairly light at 4lbs. The CZC trigger may be lighter but it doesn't seem as crisp as the CGW trigger. The reset with the CGW SRT kit isn't as short as I had hoped but it's much improved over a stock trigger. I'll be taking the SA to the range tomorrow to make sure it will still ignite steel cased ammo relaibly and to shake it down before I shoot it Sunday at the local PPC match. |
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The SA is done and I have the good fortune to be able to compare it to the CZ Customs tweaked Compact L pistol. IMO, the Cajun Gun Works SA trigger is superb and better than the CZC trigger. The CZC trigger/FCG still has hammer camming even with the race hammer and the CGW trigger with the CGW race hammer has zero camming when pulling the trigger. The CGW trigger has a slight amount of creep before it breaks but it's crisp and fairly light at 4lbs. The CZC trigger may be lighter but it doesn't seem as crisp as the CGW trigger. The reset with the CGW SRT kit isn't as short as I had hoped but it's much improved over a stock trigger. I'll be taking the SA to the range tomorrow to make sure it will still ignite steel cased ammo relaibly and to shake it down before I shoot it Sunday at the local PPC match. The "Short Reset" disconnectors dont actually change the reset distance. If they do, it is simply due to variance between parts. They DO however remove the pre travel. Personally, i see no point in this but to each their own. I just wanted to point this out since the actual name of the kit is incredibly confusing. |
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The "Short Reset" disconnectors dont actually change the reset distance. If they do, it is simply due to variance between parts. They DO however remove the pre travel. Personally, i see no point in this but to each their own. I just wanted to point this out since the actual name of the kit is incredibly confusing. Quoted:
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The SA is done and I have the good fortune to be able to compare it to the CZ Customs tweaked Compact L pistol. IMO, the Cajun Gun Works SA trigger is superb and better than the CZC trigger. The CZC trigger/FCG still has hammer camming even with the race hammer and the CGW trigger with the CGW race hammer has zero camming when pulling the trigger. The CGW trigger has a slight amount of creep before it breaks but it's crisp and fairly light at 4lbs. The CZC trigger may be lighter but it doesn't seem as crisp as the CGW trigger. The reset with the CGW SRT kit isn't as short as I had hoped but it's much improved over a stock trigger. I'll be taking the SA to the range tomorrow to make sure it will still ignite steel cased ammo relaibly and to shake it down before I shoot it Sunday at the local PPC match. The "Short Reset" disconnectors dont actually change the reset distance. If they do, it is simply due to variance between parts. They DO however remove the pre travel. Personally, i see no point in this but to each their own. I just wanted to point this out since the actual name of the kit is incredibly confusing. The Cajun Gun Works site advertises this: "Cuts the SA reset approximately 50%" The reset on the SA has been reduced and is shorter when compared to my factory only CZs. It's just not as short as I'd like. ETA: Here's a depiction of CZCs claim of a shorter reset equipped pistol: 
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Shot 100 rounds through the SA this morning focusing mainly on "FAST" drills to get a feel how well it strings shot together and there's a vast improvement. No problems igniting Tula 115 steel cased ammo.
The shorter reset coupled with the lighter and crisper trigger pull helps me keep rounds where I intend them to go. The other part of the improvement plan was the EZ drift sight which are a huge improvement over the smallish factory 3 dot sights. I love the black serrated rear with the red fiber optic front. Overall I feel that the CGW parts and sights are money well spent and absolutely a huge improvement over the stock ignition system and sights. I do plan on upgrading my 75B Compact sometime in the future based on how much the CGW parts improved the SA. 
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