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7/13/2009 12:08:40 PM EDT
I bought the gun new in the box. (1st) problem: the gun would not chamber the first round from any magazine.
Springfield said the mag springs are too strong..........OK.

(2nd) Problem:Yesterday I'm at the range the gun jams on the second magazine. I attemped to clear it and found the
extractor had a death grip on the case. Had to disassemble the gun to remove the case. Have not called S.A.yet.

(3rd) Problem: Friend of mine goes to the gunshow and buys the super stainless steel model 1911.He tells me how great the gun shoots. As the conversation goes on he finally admits that his gun will not fully seat the first round off the magazine.

I'm not here to run S.A. down. This gun when it shoots was the most accurate and fun gun to shoot I've ever owned. I just think the other side needs to be told....and that is that there are problems with these guns or I got a lemon. I also feel a gun out of the box new should be reliable from the get go and not have to tweak this or that.

7/13/2009 12:32:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Of the four SA 1911s I own, one (a Mil-Spec) had to be factory tweaked out of the box to run right.  Shouldn't be but not that unusual that a little tuning is required––especially for those 1911s that aren't extensively tested before delivery––or tested at all.  Welcome to the world of 1911s or at least some of them.  If you want to be assured of not having to tweak, get a Glock.  The problem(s) describe are not limited to Springfields.

That being said, it sounds (to me) that the extractor might need a little tuning.  You can find instructions for doing it yourself in a "sticky" on one of the specialized 1911 forums.  Not hard to do.
7/13/2009 1:23:46 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
I bought the gun new in the box. (1st) problem: the gun would not chamber the first round from any magazine.
Springfield said the mag springs are too strong..........OK.

(2nd) Problem:Yesterday I'm at the range the gun jams on the second magazine. I attemped to clear it and found the
extractor had a death grip on the case. Had to disassemble the gun to remove the case. Have not called S.A.yet.

(3rd) Problem: Friend of mine goes to the gunshow and buys the super stainless steel model 1911.He tells me how great the gun shoots. As the conversation goes on he finally admits that his gun will not fully seat the first round off the magazine.

I'm not here to run S.A. down. This gun when it shoots was the most accurate and fun gun to shoot I've ever owned. I just think the other side needs to be told....and that is that there are problems with these guns or I got a lemon. I also feel a gun out of the box new should be reliable from the get go and not have to tweak this or that.



I'm betting, ok assuming that this is the OP writers 1st 1911 ?? It's nice when you can pull a weapon from the box and run without tuning of some kind and yes I have tuned plastic new out of box to run. Secondly I'm assuming OP writer would like some insightful help with his\her unfortunate experiences as this is not a POS OP. My question would have to be what kind of ammunition are you feeding your Springfield   ??   ... Yes it should feed any type of correct caliber ammunition. This info would give us a place to start.

7/13/2009 5:04:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Dude I'm a 1911 novice but I whole-heartedly agree that if you spend good money on a piece of equipment the sonofabitch oughta work properly from the get go.  Few things upset me more than equipment that does not work.

I have the GI on order myself and opted for this model because of the way it felt in my hand and I liked the way it looked.  However, when I ordered it, I realized that I would "have" to spend more $ to get it running the way I want it to. (new sights-possible trigger job-other minor issues)

I have read countless threads about how good Springfield Armory's customer service is so I'm resting easy knowing that.  

Good luck brother
7/13/2009 5:39:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Most 1911's need a little "tweaking" to run properly out of the box.  Damn shame that.
7/13/2009 5:58:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Sprigfield customer service is second to none, your right to rest easy there..... I don't know a whole lot, but I have experienced a problem or two with my 1911's. I know that new out of the box they run real well on Winchester Ball and certain defensive rounds lock up in weapons extractor. I know a little about magazine followers and the fact a follower canted too far up tends to hang the first round. I can help if needed, but it sounds like Springfield Customer Service is the best place for you to start. Their phone number is 800-680-6866 or 800-617-6751.
7/13/2009 6:19:14 PM EDT
[#6]
I really appreciate the good advice. I'll contact Springfield Arms. As far as ammo: I was shooting Remington golden saber.

The other thing is I owned a 1917 (original made in 1917 Colt) 20 years ago and it shot anything you fed it. It rattled like on old chevy pick-up. Then I had a colt combat commander I carried for 10 years it shot everything also. Guess I expected too much.

Thanks again for the advice.
7/13/2009 6:31:31 PM EDT
[#7]
Sorry, not feeling well this evening and got one of the responses confused for yours..... As expected your using a thick rimmed defensive round that is hanging in your weapons extractor... you can send it back to SA with an explanation of what ammunition you are running..... Or you could run two or three hundred rounds of Winchester Ball through it first for break-in... All new 1911's need a break-in period.... Some might suggest you replace or tune extractor... I'm suspect if you will run your gun wet for a while with Winchester Ball it will tune it's self.... Shoot Safe.
7/14/2009 8:18:25 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks, I'll try it.
7/14/2009 9:09:21 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Sorry, not feeling well this evening and got one of the responses confused for yours..... As expected your using a thick rimmed defensive round that is hanging in your weapons extractor... you can send it back to SA with an explanation of what ammunition you are running..... Or you could run two or three hundred rounds of Winchester Ball through it first for break-in... All new 1911's need a break-in period.... Some might suggest you replace or tune extractor... I'm suspect if you will run your gun wet for a while with Winchester Ball it will tune it's self.... Shoot Safe.


+1

Shoot cheap ammo for a while! If you can find some...
7/14/2009 9:15:28 AM EDT
[#10]
Have bought two G.I.'s NIB.  Still own one.  First one needed about 200 rds (w/factory mags) to loosen up enough to consistently feed last round without FTRB.  Second one has run 100% out of the box with factory and Wilson mags.
7/16/2009 4:06:05 AM EDT
[#11]
Silly question, but you did strip/clean/oil/inspect it before heading to the range, right?

I have a new 1911A1 GI and did all that, and it chewed up 50rds of Blazer aluminum cases without a single issue, the stock mag and one Chip McCormack 8rd'er.

Just trying to help :)
7/16/2009 7:01:04 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

Silly question, but you did strip/clean/oil/inspect it before heading to the range, right?




+1

I also wonder about having enough oil on it as well as using aftermarket mags instead of the OEM mags.................

I oil the shit out of my 1911s, even my Les Baer.    

7/17/2009 6:21:52 AM EDT
[#13]
i have a stainless GI that has seen about 1.000 rounds.
some feed issues here and there but that is most likely
my form.

it is my 1st pistol,so i havent developed a great form yet.