Posted: 12/1/2008 3:38:30 PM EDT
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Does anyone know why Springfield Armory 1911s are currently so difficult to get? Most models are currently out of stock just about everywhere that I have looked. There are still plenty of their XDs around everywhere, but the 191s are becoming scarce. Have they reduced production for some reason, or has the current buying frenzy extended all the way to single stack pistols now? They are not unatainable, and some models are still in stock at different places but they are hard to find. At least it doesn't seem like the prices have skyrocked like they have with ARs. Does anyone know when the avalibility is due to increase so that I could find a nice parkerized Mis-Spec at my local gun shop? |
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Lots of 1911s found locally here in TN. Methinks your dealer has just dropped the ball on ordering in a timely fashion. Plus, the 2009 Shot Show is soon upon us & thus the 2009 models are probably the focus at the factory on the 1911 side.
IMO, no, the current frenzy isn't extending to 1911s. Seems everyone knows a single stack won't be messed with by a gun grabber. My .o2 |
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The large local dealer that I haunt a year ago had most SA 1911s in stock. That isn't the case now and the few examples he does have aren't the more popular sellers.
G.I.s, Mil-Specs, TRPs last a few days or less when he gets them which doesn't seem to be too often. The same is true of Champions. He does seem to get 1911 Pros relatively often (every couple of months) and they don't last long either. I really don't follow the other brands, but it seems like the Kimber case is full, as is the Wilson case. |
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Quoted: The large local dealer that I haunt a year ago had most SA 1911s in stock. That isn't the case now and the few examples he does have aren't the more popular sellers. G.I.s, Mil-Specs, TRPs last a few days or less when he gets them which doesn't seem to be too often. The same is true of Champions. He does seem to get 1911 Pros relatively often (every couple of months) and they don't last long either. I really don't follow the other brands, but it seems like the Kimber case is full, as is the Wilson case. I know what you mean. They are not impossible to find, you just need to look around some. I just can't figure out why they need to be difficult to find at all! It seems like SA isn't producing enough to meet the demand. Maybe they are just holding back for the release of the 2009 models. Anyway, I'll keep looking around until I find what I am looking for. It shouldn't be too bad as I have seen some around. |
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The large local dealer that I haunt a year ago had most SA 1911s in stock. That isn't the case now and the few examples he does have aren't the more popular sellers. G.I.s, Mil-Specs, TRPs last a few days or less when he gets them which doesn't seem to be too often. The same is true of Champions. He does seem to get 1911 Pros relatively often (every couple of months) and they don't last long either. I really don't follow the other brands, but it seems like the Kimber case is full, as is the Wilson case. I know what you mean. They are not impossible to find, you just need to look around some. I just can't figure out why they need to be difficult to find at all! It seems like SA isn't producing enough to meet the demand. Maybe they are just holding back for the release of the 2009 models. Anyway, I'll keep looking around until I find what I am looking for. It shouldn't be too bad as I have seen some around. This is the local dealer that I was referring to:SGC Their website lists most of the SA 1911 models, their prices, and inventory status which is real-time. They have a pretty stiff shipping charge ($70) which probably hurts their on-line sales a bit. |
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The hyperlink was broken, but is this the site you were referring to? If so, I have been there and their shipping is high. They also do not have any GI or Mil-Spec models in stock right now either. I guess that for now I will just keep looking around at my local stores. One of them should get some SAs in sometime soon! Thanks for the site anyway. max www.scottsdalegunclub.com |
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The hyperlink was broken, but is this the site you were referring to? If so, I have been there and their shipping is high. They also do not have any GI or Mil-Spec models in stock right now either. I guess that for now I will just keep looking around at my local stores. One of them should get some SAs in sometime soon! Thanks for the site anyway. max www.scottsdalegunclub.com Good eye––that was the sight. A Senior Moment I guess in the original post. They had three G.I.,s two Mil-Specs (parked) and two Mil-Specs (SS),and two Pros a week ago, among some less popular models. All gone now. One of them, a Mil-Spec, went to me which is now at the factory getting the trigger straignted out. Good luck. |
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I went in to 2 different gunshops before I bought my Loaded and they both practically laughed at me when I asked them about the availability of a Springfield 1911. They both told me (they are 140 miles apart) that their distibutors are completely sold out.
Coincidentally, I found the Loaded model I wanted at a big gunshop in the burbs of chicago and another one (yeah, I bought two) at Gander Mountain (for $70 higher than the gunshop price). Look around. They seem to be kinda scarce, but they're out there. BTW, the gunshop I went to had lots of mil-specs and GI's. I might be able to get you the phone number if you want. |
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I have no idea why, but here in Ohio they are hard to come by. I just waited 5 or 6 weeks to pick up my Loaded. The shop I bought it from looked at all their usual distributors and even talked to a Springfield rep to no avail. By chance they had a dealer get 1 stainless loaded in and immediately grabbed it.
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I've noticed less and less 1911's in stores. If stores have them in stock they are either SA GI's, or high end Kimbers, SA TRP's, etc... I'm not sure if that's because the mid range $500-$750 Mil-Surp's are in high demand and get picked up quick or if it's because most the stores (in my local area at least) have gone to the tuperware XD's, Glocks, etc...
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| i have also noticed that the springfield are hard to come by along with many other models like the colt.i searched a couple of shops including gander mountain and they where the only place that had 1911's in and they had only two high end kimbers that they wanted 1300 for each. even on the internet sites like budsgunshop didnt have them in stock, thats why i jumped over Ouch's mil spec that he was selling this site is the best place that i could find a Springfield 1911 and the price that i paid was reasonable espically compared to the commercial guys shops over by me. i asked the gunsmith why they dont really have any 1911's at gander mountain he he told me that the mid end 1911's usually go a day or two after they get them and they just cant seem to keep them in stock. i asked about the used ones if they ever get them and he said rarely so i guess pple want them and not many want to get rid of them but thats just my thoughts. |
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Springfield has had some kind of problem the last 6 months or so. Their 1911 output has been really backed up. Hopefully they get it figured out soon My dealer said they spoke with SA about the backlog and was told that there is a contract dispute with Imbel. Take it with a grain of salt, most of what you hear from gunstores is 10th hand information and rumor. But these guys claim to have gotten this news directly from SA. It's anyone's guess, but supplies of SA's have been short in my area too. I know, I buy them when I see them and I haven't seen many lately. |
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Springfield has had some kind of problem the last 6 months or so. Their 1911 output has been really backed up. Hopefully they get it figured out soon My dealer said they spoke with SA about the backlog and was told that there is a contract dispute with Imbel. Take it with a grain of salt, most of what you hear from gunstores is 10th hand information and rumor. But these guys claim to have gotten this news directly from SA. It's anyone's guess, but supplies of SA's have been short in my area too. I know, I buy them when I see them and I haven't seen many lately. We got a chance to talk to Springfield right when they were releasing the XDm and they refused to tell us what the problem was. They just said there was a problem and they were working to resolve it. We were joking that taurus must have gotten all the frames 
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It seems like they are difficult to find (I still see some of the "loaded" models around) all over the country not just in an isolated area. Does anyone have any inside information as to what "problems" Springfield Armory is having in keeping up with demand for their 1911s? They are definitely not having the same problem producing enough XDs as I see them all over. Could they just be temporarily switching over production to their high capacity guns anticipating the increased demand due to fears about the election? Anyway, I hope that this doesn't last long. I would love to go back to the days when my local shops had plenty of SA 1911s to go around and I didn't need to travel to find what I wanted! |
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It seems like they are difficult to find (I still see some of the "loaded" models around) all over the country not just in an isolated area. Does anyone have any inside information as to what "problems" Springfield Armory is having in keeping up with demand for their 1911s? They are definitely not having the same problem producing enough XDs as I see them all over. Could they just be temporarily switching over production to their high capacity guns anticipating the increased demand due to fears about the election? Anyway, I hope that this doesn't last long. I would love to go back to the days when my local shops had plenty of SA 1911s to go around and I didn't need to travel to find what I wanted! I believe the XDs are made in Croatia or some similar location in Eastern Europe, while the 1911s have a South American connection. The local shop seems to get them in bunches, and the popular models (Mil-Specs, TRPs, Pros,) don't last more than a few days. I believe he has six or eight different models in stock right now, but they're not the more popular 1911 models. |
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Quoted: I was told they are focusing more on EMP...and the smaller type 1911's...For what its worth..... Come on SA! If there is a demand for Mil-Specs, then make them and sell them! There is definitely a demand because whenever a batch comes in they sell out almost instantly. I did some checking and if you want one you let your favorite local FFL know. They then call you when they come in. If you do not get right down there to file papers they sell it to someone else. Getting a Mil-Spec is very difficult. The way people go after them you'd thnk that they were $500.00 Springfield Professionals! Its crazy! |
| Bud's Gunshop has been out of stock on Mil-Specs and Loadeds for months. Same with Buds Police Supply, they've been out of stock on all Springfield 1911s for months. I called four months ago to ask about when they would have some and was told "hopefully 60-90 days". Still don't have any, according to their web pages. Local shops here in KS seldom have any. Everyone seems to be polymer happy these days. Sad, really. |
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Does anyone know why Springfield Armory 1911s are currently so difficult to get? Most models are currently out of stock just about everywhere that I have looked. There are still plenty of their XDs around everywhere, but the 191s are becoming scarce. Have they reduced production for some reason, or has the current buying frenzy extended all the way to single stack pistols now? They are not unatainable, and some models are still in stock at different places but they are hard to find. At least it doesn't seem like the prices have skyrocked like they have with ARs. Does anyone know when the avalibility is due to increase so that I could find a nice parkerized Mis-Spec at my local gun shop? There were several mil spec and GI models at Shooters in Jacksonville, or at least they had several at the gunshow a couple weeks ago. |
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The dealer that I just went to had one or two in stock. I asked him if they would be getting any more soon. He said that last time he called Springfield and asked about the next shipments of 1911s tbey laughed over the phone. It seems like Springfield is definitely having some difficulties fulfilling the orders for their 1911 pistols. I hope that they can get caught back up soon! MAX |
| I just put the last GI 1911 (parkerized) on layaway at my local shop. They are a bigger shop and they usually don't have any trouble getting ANYTHING in. They can't get ANY Springfields 1911's. I think it is a combination of Srpingfield not putting as many out and demand. My friend wants an olive green GI. There isn't one to be had. |
I was in my local gun shop last week picking up 2 guns they had for me. We got to talking about the springfields and why they where hard to come by. I was told that the reason was because they are more focused on getting weapons turned out for the military. Seeing that Clinton was paying guys to cut up M14s   they are now working on refurbishing old rifles they didn't get to cut up & getting new ones set up. Im assuming that to an extent the same goes for any 1911's that the military still has floating around.
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Quoted: I was in my local gun shop last week picking up 2 guns they had for me. We got to talking about the Springfields and why they where hard to come by. I was told that the reason was because they are more focused on getting weapons turned out for the military. Seeing that Clinton was paying guys to cut up M14s they are now working on refurbishing old rifles they didn't get to cut up & getting new ones set up. I'm assuming that to an extent the same goes for any 1911's that the military still has floating around.This could definitely be true. With the war in Iraq starting to wind down (Obama) do you think that we will start seeing better availability soon, as in sometime before the end of 2009? You can still find some used or being sold by private individuals, but unless some new Springers start hitting shelves soon they begin to drastically increase in price. I do not want to see anyone need to pay $1,000.00 for a "slightly used" Mil-Spec! MAX |
| I wouldn't hold my breath about them being more available if Obama brings the troops home from the war in Iraq. I asked about the SCAR's coming out and was told for 2009 they would not be brining out any SCAR-H (308) but they would have more SCAR-L (5.56) (for anyone who doesn't know no offense meant) because there might be a shift to Afghanistan instead. |
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Quoted: I wouldn't hold my breath about them being more available if Obama brings the troops home from the war in Iraq. I asked about the SCAR's coming out and was told for 2009 they would not be bringing out any SCAR-H (308) but they would have more SCAR-L (5.56) (for anyone who doesn't know no offense meant) because there might be a shift to Afghanistan instead. I wonder why they do not just ramp up their production capacity to meet demand. There are definitely people out there looking for a Springfield 1911 who are having a difficult time finding them available. Right now Springfield is basically the only company that makes a production level (and relatively inexpensive) series-70 1911 that is very close to the original specs. Their GI and Mil-Spec models are just awesome! MAX |
| They do seem a little scarce. But, stopped by a local corner gunshop last week and found three G.I.'s on the shelf (two parkerized and one stainless). Left with one of the parkerized ones. Strangely enough though, went to a gun show today and saw exactly ONE Springfield 1911 at one dealer and ONE at another. Both were Mil-Specs. Go figure. |
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Quoted: They do seem a little scarce. But, stopped by a local corner gunshop last week and found three G.I.'s on the shelf (two parkerized and one stainless). Left with one of the parkerized ones. Strangely enough though, went to a gun show today and saw exactly ONE Springfield 1911 at one dealer and ONE at another. Both were Mil-Specs. Go figure.  Congratulations on your find! Does it shoot well? Anyway, the battle continues as Springfield seems to be in no hurry to catch up with demand. MAX |
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Quoted: I'm a little embarassed to say that I haven't fired it yet. I usually test new guns within 48 hours of purchase, but have been a little busy. Hopefully this week. I have previously owned a G.I. and it was a great shooter. I'm expecting the same with this one. That's OK. I've waited as long as a couple of weeks before testing out a new gun. Sometimes you get busy with work or it ends up raining all week. Still, I expect that you've at least dry fired it a few times and that you will give us all a range report after you do get a chance to try it out. MAX |
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I'm a little embarassed to say that I haven't fired it yet. I usually test new guns within 48 hours of purchase, but have been a little busy. Hopefully this week. I have previously owned a G.I. and it was a great shooter. I'm expecting the same with this one. That's OK. I've waited as long as a couple of weeks before testing out a new gun. Sometimes you get busy with work or it ends up raining all week. Still, I expect that you've at least dry fired it a few times and that you will give us all a range report after you do get a chance to try it out. MAX See range report posted today in 1911 forum... |
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SGC has a couple in stock right now. http://sgcusa.com/index.html |