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12/30/2006 5:53:38 AM EDT
Can someone explain to me what Double Action Only is on the XD's?  How exactly do they work?
12/30/2006 4:56:36 PM EDT
[#1]
They don't pre-cock the hammer, thus they have a long double action trigger pull on each & every single shot. For precise shooting, it's not terribly conductive. Personally, I would pass.
12/30/2006 5:17:48 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Can someone explain to me what Double Action Only is on the XD's?  How exactly do they work?


It's kind of a misnomer in striker fired pistols, since there is no hammer.  Basically, the process of pulling the trigger both retracts (or cocks) and subsequently releases the striker mechanism.  This would be akin to cocking and releasing a hammer in a traditional DA/SA pistol with a hammer with the first round trigger pull, or doing the same with a double action revolver.  

I would not pass, there is nothing wrong at all with SA XD's and Glocks as combat pistols, other than they hold many more boolits than most 1911's .  It takes some learning to get used to the trigger on the striker fired pistols, but they are well worth it.
12/30/2006 7:03:57 PM EDT
[#3]
My XDs and Glock do not have a super long trigger that does not allow you to shoot accurate. My .45 Tactical shoots almost as accurate as my CZ97B and my 1911 and may even be as accurate as my 1911.
1/2/2007 12:05:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Why does everyone get it wrong on the the XD's firing mechanism? The XD is a striker fired single action pistol. There is no hammer and no way other than working the slide to cock the striker on the XD. Hence no double action, DAO or otherwise.



ETA: Glocks are pre-cocked and the trigger pull finishes off cocking the action prior to breaking the sear. XD's are fully cocked when loaded.
1/2/2007 1:39:21 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Why does everyone get it wrong on the the XD's firing mechanism? The XD is a striker fired single action pistol. There is no hammer and no way other than working the slide to cock the striker on the XD. Hence no double action, DAO or otherwise.



ETA: Glocks are pre-cocked and the trigger pull finishes off cocking the action prior to breaking the sear. XD's are fully cocked when loaded.



What he said!

1/2/2007 3:22:53 PM EDT
[#6]
My bad - I just assumed the XD striker was like the Glock in that it was not fully retracted until you pull the trigger.  I guess the striker status indicator would indicate otherwise - I haven't spent alot of time taking the XD's apart.

Could someone explain how the rearward motion of the slide cocks the striker since it would seem the striker hanging on anything as the slide moves rearward would tend to push it the other way (i.e. - forward), rather than cock it???  Does this question make any sense?  Thanks.
1/3/2007 7:45:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Just check out Springfield's website.  They lay it all out right there as to how it works!


Daryn
1/3/2007 10:25:12 PM EDT
[#8]
Here is the link as to how the XD action works.  Hope that this helps.  I am going to buy one tomorrow.  5" Tactical for sure but not sure which caliber.  


Daryn

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/techside/xd_010305/
1/3/2007 11:48:48 PM EDT
[#9]
www.gunsandammomag.com/techside/xd_010305/
1/4/2007 2:19:57 AM EDT
[#10]
Thanks for the responses guys - I'm still a little unclear as to what acts on the striker ear (C in the pictures in the article) to retract it in the first place with the act of retracting the slide.  Again, it seems more intuitive that retracting the slide would force "C" forward rather than rearward if it came into contact with anything.  I'll take more time and re-read the article again to see if I missed something.  

Anyone know specifically how the striker is brought rearward in the first place?  Sorry for the questions, but thoroughly understanding one is critical to eventually troubleshooting it if you have to.

Again, thanks for the informative link!
1/4/2007 12:31:06 PM EDT
[#11]
To answer how the striker gets cocked. The Striker is limited on how far forward it can move. As the slide moves rearward the striker is carried over the sear and retained in the cocked postion by the sear.  As the slide continues forward, it stripes a round off the magazine and chambers it as the slide moves fully forward.
1/4/2007 12:58:11 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
To answer how the striker gets cocked. The Striker is limited on how far forward it can move. As the slide moves rearward the striker is carried over the sear and retained in the cocked postion by the sear.  As the slide continues forward, it stripes a round off the magazine and chambers it as the slide moves fully forward.


Thanks man!  It just hit me like a ton of bricks after reading your description.  Sorry for the brain fart.  I feel alot better now!



1/4/2007 1:36:41 PM EDT
[#13]
Kinda happy so I am gonna boast,

Just picked up my XD 9mm subcompact today.  Love it!!  This will replace my Sig 228 9mm for concealed carry.


Daryn
1/4/2007 3:16:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Congrats!  You'll like it, the XD9SC was my first XD and I still really enjoy shooting it.
1/4/2007 4:24:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Boxer,

How much did you pay and where did you get yours from?
1/4/2007 4:25:47 PM EDT
[#16]
That was a good article. I have two XD's and I didn't know it was a true SA pistol. I am going to have to buy another XD in the 45 compact.
1/5/2007 8:47:08 AM EDT
[#17]
Well in another post for simplicity sake I mentioned that I got the gun at Gander Mountain since Gander is more national.  I actually got it at Scheel's in Fargo, ND.  But Scheel's price matches and Gander Mountain down the street had the XD 9mm subcompact on the shelf for $429.  Hence, I got it at Scheel's for $429.  Scheel's is more localized in the upper midwest.

Sportsmans Warehouse had the same one for $479.  Cabelas for $460.


Daryn