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2/10/2005 5:45:15 PM EDT
I just got my first Springfield 1911-A1 from my father for Christmas since I turned 21 last summer and I love it. I was wondering if anybody else had a problem with shell casings getting stuck in the ejection port. It has done it to me a few times and I use Federal or Remington 230 grain rounds. Thanks
2/10/2005 10:58:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Don't take this the wrong way, but could it be you're limp-wristing it? That's a fairly common cause of the problem you're having.
2/10/2005 11:17:03 PM EDT
[#2]
I would check your extratcor tension, if it's letting loose of the case too early it wont strike the ejector properly.   A wilson's bulletproof extractor may just fix you right up.

To tension your extractor you can remove it and sit it in the slide backwards (sticking out instead of in) press against it to bend slightly towards the extractor hook.   Reinstall in the slid andyou should feel a bit of resistance going in.   Put her back together and try it out.   I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the web to show what to do.
2/11/2005 11:24:41 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Don't take this the wrong way, but could it be you're limp-wristing it? That's a fairly common cause of the problem you're having.



HAHA. I hold it like I would a .44 Desert Eagle or a .44 SW long barrel revolver and no casings get stuck sooo I wouldn't assume it be my wrist. Besides no offense taken
2/11/2005 11:25:50 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
I would check your extratcor tension, if it's letting loose of the case too early it wont strike the ejector properly.   A wilson's bulletproof extractor may just fix you right up.

To tension your extractor you can remove it and sit it in the slide backwards (sticking out instead of in) press against it to bend slightly towards the extractor hook.   Reinstall in the slid andyou should feel a bit of resistance going in.   Put her back together and try it out.   I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the web to show what to do.



Thansk for the info.
2/12/2005 7:21:17 AM EDT
[#5]
Saw the same thing happen to mine and I know I was not limp wristing.  It happened after about 400 rounds or so (not all shot on the same day!)

Shell would be caught in the ejection port and as the slide rode foreward it would crush the brass on the barrel and slide.  Interesting looking brass to say the least.  

I am sending the unit back to Springfiled because of this and several other issues.  I really like this gun, I just wish it had been right out of the box.  
2/12/2005 8:31:25 AM EDT
[#6]
I've heard internet rumor that sometimes 9mm extractors sometimes get into the mix when they assemble parts and this can cause issues.   In that case a send back is in order as they f*cked it up!  

I'd try adding a bit of tension before messing with sending it in as it will not be evident to the parts swappers that anything is done and it wont hurt the warranty.  

Lastly if SA doesnt get it right you can either purchase a bulletproof extractor from Wilson Combat or you can sell it to me at a bargain basement price  

I guess I'm lucky here, both my SAs were perfect runners from the get go, my Colt commander however took some break in time.  


Also what mags are you using?   If using the split follower 8 round mags stop immediately and buy some good mags.   Those cause all sorts of screwy problems, their 7 round mags are fine.
2/12/2005 9:44:29 AM EDT
[#7]
Ballistics, try this link for extractor help:

www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/GunTech/NewsletterArchive.aspx?p=0&t=1&i=33

Also, there is a tried and true way to see if your extractor has the proper tension, though it's easier to show than explain in words.  I'll try though.  A quick warning on this.  It involves putting a loaded round, or a dummy cartridge of the same weight, against the slide's breechface.  If you think you are clumsy enough to drop the slide, realize that theoretically it could hit a hard surface with enough force to detonate the round.  I just sit on a carpeted floor when I do this.  

With the gun disassembled, take the slide by itself (no barrel, bushing, etc.).   Put a loaded round under the extractor, and slide it up to where it would be sitting if the gun were in battery (which can be seen by the round marks on the breechface).  It should slide up under the extractor and stay there.  It should point straight ahaead, or barely dip nose down.  If it doesn't stay against the breechface at this point, it's too loose.  If it's very hard to get it up under the extractor, it's too tight.  If it does dip nose down at this point, try and point it straight ahead.  If it dips back down, it's too loose.  If it goes in and stays pointed straight ahead, go to the next step.  

Hold the slide from the muzzle end, and shake it up and down once or twice, stopping on the down swing.  Don't shake so hard that the gun comes to an abrupt stop each time you change direction.  The round should be tipping nose down, but not fall out.  If this happens, then it's good.  

There are some other common causes of failure to extracts.  Did you replace you recoil spring with a much heavier one?  Many people run 18 to 22 lbs., thinking it will make their gun recoil less, or last longer.  The factory spec weight is 16.5 for a non variable spring, and is pretty much ideal for 230 grn. loads.  A stronger spring will actually make the gun recoil more, as the gun has more force to overcome during the unlocking sequence.  

Another thing to check is to see if your ejector is loose, worn, or even has a broken face.  A loose one will cause eratic ejection.  A broken one may not eject the casing in the right direction, and can let a case fall back into the ejection port.  Anyway, good luck with your gun.