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1/6/2004 1:56:28 PM EDT
Local gunsmith has a 5 screw 357 6" blued revolver. Bluing is about 85%, rear sight blade is broken, asking $550. What model would this be? What is the difference between model 19 and 27?

Thank You!!
1/6/2004 2:04:34 PM EDT
[#1]
I need to add that it appeared to be a "K" frame.
1/7/2004 5:29:06 AM EDT
[#2]
Sounds like an early Model 19.

$550 is way out of line.

1/7/2004 6:26:29 AM EDT
[#3]
As a shooter it's worth about 150$ to 175$ to me. At over 500$ it must be an antique!!
1/7/2004 10:24:40 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm no S&W collector-grade expert, so I can't say for sure, but I do know that I have never seen a 5 screw K frame magnum...and I've seen a LOT of k frame magnums. Now, a 4 screw, yes. The 5 screw S&W .357s I have seen were all the M27 series guns...actually many were built before S&W began using model numbers like they do today, and quite a few before WWII. An 85% 5 screw .357 could well be "worth" that amount of money to sone folks, but not as a shooter. Pass on it as a using gun.

Edited to say that the "K" frame guns would be the M13/19/66 size frames and the "N" frames are used for the M27/28/29 sized revolvers...they are bigger and heavier and most parts do not interchange.
1/11/2004 7:59:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Mint or LNIB model 19s go for $350 or less.
Why buy a "gunsmith's special" that needs reblued, a rear blade and who knows what else?
A "gunsmith" that sells broken guns at twice the price?
1/11/2004 8:20:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Heck, Take a look at the 2 S&W 686's I'm selling EE-  Either one is substantially better then what your looking at and not much more money.
1/11/2004 9:49:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Here is the M-28 and M-19 for comparison.


And the difference between the M-28 and M-27 is in fit and finish.





In each photo the 27 is on the left.

The price is very high, by about $200.00, but it also a great handgun and certainly the equal of any $550.00 gun made.
1/11/2004 11:27:49 AM EDT
[#8]
I've got a pre-model 27 5-screw, bought it in 87 for $350 (factory nickeled w/5" barrel).  

Seems like a high price to me.  From what I've seen, most S&W pistols made before 1955 all had five screws (four on the side plate, one in front of the trigger guard).  

The model 19 didn't come out until 1955, so I really doubt it came out in a 5-screw; I'd say it's an N-frame.

One nice thing about those older models, though--they were all hand-fitted, and therefore shoot like a dream.  Don't really get that kind of quality anymore....
1/21/2004 1:43:00 PM EDT
[#9]
The Mod 27,28 were built on the N frame which was the largest at the time, the model 19 was built on the K frame which is the medium frame and of course the J frame is the small frame. In the late 1970s S&W introduced a beefed up version of the medium frame and called it their L frame which was intended to supply a stronger frame for those people who wanted to shoot alot of full strength 357 mag rounds. It has the  same grip size of the 19 but with a larger cylinder and therefore bigger upper frame. But the bottom line is that $550 bucks for worn mod 27 with a broken sight blade is not a  good deal.
1/21/2004 2:43:03 PM EDT
[#10]
There is one possibility that would make the $550.00 a steal. Look in the yoke/crane area and see if it's marked reg. If so, grab it and run.