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8/25/2007 3:05:28 PM EDT
Is it okay to dry fire this unit?
8/27/2007 10:09:31 PM EDT
[#1]
No, it's not recommended that you dry fire any (most)  rimfire pistol, rifle, or conversion kit.  You can damage the firing pin by dry firing.

Diamondback
a 45 may not expand but it will never be smaller than .45!!
NRA Memeber
8/28/2007 11:14:48 AM EDT
[#2]
Okay, thanks!
8/31/2007 4:54:04 PM EDT
[#3]
What kind of reliability are you guys getting with your Kimber conversion kits?  I'm on the fence right now, and can't decide between a Kimber or a Ciener.  
9/1/2007 2:34:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Mine is 100% so far as long as I use high velocity ammo.  I've been using Mini Mag +v and it works great.  I tried some American Eagle and it worked ok about 2/3rds of the time. Most of the failures with American Eagle ammo was FTE.  It's very accurate and a lot cheaper shooting 22s than with 45s!

Diamondback
A 45 may not expand but it will never be smaller than .45!!
NRA Member
9/1/2007 3:05:06 PM EDT
[#5]
I used all the cheaper high velocity bulk packs in the past with lots of jams. I'm now using CCI Velocitors without any problems. I think anything in the hyper velocity will run just fine. The slide needs to be lubed before shooting as well. It doesn't like to run dry.
9/1/2007 3:44:14 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
What kind of reliability are you guys getting with your Kimber conversion kits?  I'm on the fence right now, and can't decide between a Kimber or a Ciener.  


IIRC, the Kimbers are Cieners. They just have the Kimber logo.
9/1/2007 7:15:35 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What kind of reliability are you guys getting with your Kimber conversion kits?  I'm on the fence right now, and can't decide between a Kimber or a Ciener.  


IIRC, the Kimbers are Cieners. They just have the Kimber logo.


I thought that was only with the earlier models.
9/1/2007 7:28:02 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What kind of reliability are you guys getting with your Kimber conversion kits?  I'm on the fence right now, and can't decide between a Kimber or a Ciener.  


IIRC, the Kimbers are Cieners. They just have the Kimber logo.


I thought that was only with the earlier models.


Agillig, you are correct.  The early units were made by Ciener but Kimber produces all of their conversions units in house these days. The also produce all of their firearms in house and don't use parts or castings from anyone else.  

Diamondback
A 45 may not expand but it will never be smaller than .45!!
NRA Member
9/2/2007 2:58:28 PM EDT
[#9]
do they make a threaded barrel for suppressor?
9/2/2007 5:18:02 PM EDT
[#10]

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do they make a threaded barrel for suppressor?


What are the odds you guys would have any kits in?  I'd rather spend my money locally then order through the internet.
9/2/2007 5:55:20 PM EDT
[#11]
i can get them in a few days
9/14/2007 12:33:04 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a Kimber conversion that runs fine on Federal AutoMatch.  A lot of the cheaper bulk packs have low and erratic velocity.  Any regular high velocity ammo should work.
The Kimber version also has much better sights than the Ciener and is much easier to disassemble.
9/14/2007 1:31:51 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I have a Kimber conversion that runs fine on Federal AutoMatch.  A lot of the cheaper bulk packs have low and erratic velocity.  Any regular high velocity ammo should work.
The Kimber version also has much better sights than the Ciener and is much easier to disassemble.


Thanks. I'll have mine shortly from Aim Surplus.  Any idea how Remington Thunderbolt works?  It says "High Velocity", FWIW.
9/14/2007 1:49:11 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
do they make a threaded barrel for suppressor?

No, but TROS or Tornado Technologies can make it happen.
9/16/2007 11:28:27 AM EDT
[#15]
I just fired my Kimber conversion for the 1st time yesterday, I was using the Federal 525rd Value pack, I had a couple of 1st round FTE, so I stripped it, lightly re-lubed it and had no problems after that.

-and yeah +1 to the "hell of a lot cheaper then shooting .45" comment!!
9/17/2007 5:02:20 AM EDT
[#16]
Does anyone know if these conversions will work with any size frame?  I've currently only got an Ultra Carry II, and was wondering if the kits would work on this frame, or only a full size.....
9/27/2007 11:10:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Kimber currently does not make a conversion for the Ultra series, Kimber conversions only fit Custom and Pro models.  Cenier or Marvel do make kits for officer models, which will work on the Ultra.

Kimber states that it is not harmful to dry fire there conversions,  the barrel is not counter sunk for the rim of the shell to set in, and the firing pin is not long enough to strike the chamber.  They are like this I believe, because being that the slide is made from aluminum, they don't lock open when the last round is fired so the slide isn't damaged by the stop, so unless you are counting every time you fire, you can very easily dry fire when the mag is empty.  I personally have had this happen a few times, checked the chamber and no peen marks are evident.

I just checked my owners manual and it clearly states:

"THE SLIDE WILL NOT LOCK OPEN AFTER THE LAST ROUND IS EJECTED. Dry firing the pistol while the kit is in use will not damamge the pistol or kit."
10/18/2007 6:18:09 PM EDT
[#18]
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10/18/2007 7:53:32 PM EDT
[#19]
I have to run cci mini mag for good functionality
10/27/2007 9:53:36 AM EDT
[#20]
+1 on the mini-mags for 100% reliability.