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5/30/2005 1:03:23 AM EDT
They are about the same price, and they look pretty similar at a glance.  Aside from the checked front strap of the TLE, what are the major differences?

Cheers  
5/30/2005 3:24:27 AM EDT
[#1]
The Warrior comes with Novaks or eventually a Kimber copy of the Novak sight, their unique ambi-safety, a lanyard loop mainspring housing, a higher-cut grip safety, a GI-style guide rod and most importantly, it lacks the Series II firing pin safety that unnecessarily complicates the design.  Then theres the peanut-grips, but Id replace those immediately with some Gunner Grips.
5/30/2005 12:59:10 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
They are about the same price, and they look pretty similar at a glance.  Aside from the checked front strap of the TLE, what are the major differences?

Cheers  



Warrior is a little bit higher priced. . . another difference between the two is the extractor . . . The Warrior is an "inny" and the TLE is an "outy" Here's a pic of my two Kimbers - one of each. You can also see the differenct profile of the rear sights.

RC

5/30/2005 9:07:14 PM EDT
[#3]
There are some real differences.  Not being much into the tinkering side of guns I hadn't considered the firing pin safety, much less that there might be better reasons than not against it.  

I have also read about the dislike of external extractors on several boards concerning 1911s , but it seems the market is moving towards them; do they enhance reliability or are they also unnecessary?  

Thanks for the information fellas.

Cheers

Stinger you are a lucky man.
5/31/2005 7:56:20 AM EDT
[#4]
It's funny that the 1911 has had an internal extractor since it's inception at the turn of the last century . . . it's European counterpart the "Browning/FN HiPower pistol started out the same way also with an internal extractor. These pistols have functioned reliably for in excess of 3 quarters of a century. Amazing how things change when "improvements" are made during the evolution of any long running tool such as the above mentioned firearms. The Browning changed to an external  many years ago, but the 1911 stayed as is. Kimber's just trying to come out with a better functioning pistol, but like with anything new there are some bugs to work out.

I don't know if the external is a plus or not but I have both amoung my collection of "autos" and they all function fine. So it's a matter of choice. Either believe what you read or go with your best gut instinct and get what you want. I don't think you'll be disapointed either way.

RC
6/3/2005 8:39:25 AM EDT
[#5]
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6/3/2005 7:42:44 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
There are some real differences.  Not being much into the tinkering side of guns I hadn't considered the firing pin safety, much less that there might be better reasons than not against it.  

I have also read about the dislike of external extractors on several boards concerning 1911s , but it seems the market is moving towards them; do they enhance reliability or are they also unnecessary?  
Thanks for the information fellas.

Cheers

Stinger you are a lucky man.



Aside from not liking the way external extractors look on a 1911, the problem is they are proprietary. You have to go to the source to replace an external extractor. If I need to replace a traditional/internal extractor I have my choice of several different brands from multiple sources. If I keep a 70 series Wilson Bulletproof extractor (my favorite) in my range bag, I can use it on a Wilson, RRA, Springfield, Series 70 Colt, Kimber Series I, etc. If an existing extractor goes out a new one can be quickly tuned and tested and I'm good to go.
6/6/2005 10:28:46 PM EDT
[#7]
My TLE has an internal extractor..  
6/7/2005 3:20:01 PM EDT
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My TLE has an internal extractor..  



My dad's TLE also has an internal extractor.

All TLE/RLs' however, have external extractor AFAIK.