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1/8/2011 4:14:03 AM EDT
I've heard some people say that they wont buy a Kimber Pro Carry because of this.  Does it really matter and what does not having a barrel with a bushing mean?

Thanks!
1/8/2011 4:47:53 PM EDT
[#1]
The bushingless barrel does not bother me as much as the tool requirement to take down the slide.
1/8/2011 4:55:17 PM EDT
[#2]
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The bushingless barrel does not bother me as much as the tool requirement to take down the slide.


This.

My PC II pretty much just sits in the safe these days.
1/9/2011 6:56:54 AM EDT
[#3]
I think I'm going to convert my pro tle/rl ii to a commander recoil spring guide rod.
1/30/2011 11:53:38 PM EDT
[#4]
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The bushingless barrel does not bother me as much as the tool requirement to take down the slide.

Quoted:
I think I'm going to convert my pro tle/rl ii to a commander recoil spring guide rod.


I did some time back. Much better now. No tool needed. Mine:

1/31/2011 3:59:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The bushingless barrel does not bother me as much as the tool requirement to take down the slide.

Quoted:
I think I'm going to convert my pro tle/rl ii to a commander recoil spring guide rod.


I did some time back. Much better now. No tool needed. Mine:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_4xrAuaGHkLI/TMG8Z_p2ebI/AAAAAAAAD-U/jFS-SJe6GIc/s640/Kimber%20Compact%20Series%201%20SS018%20%28Large%29.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_4xrAuaGHkLI/TMG8huiuSKI/AAAAAAAAD-0/8sOVE8P-RCA/s640/Kimber%20Compact%20Series%201%20SS034%20%28Large%29.jpg


Do you have a big gaping hole in the front where the full length guide rod was before?
1/31/2011 5:29:22 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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The bushingless barrel does not bother me as much as the tool requirement to take down the slide.

Quoted:
I think I'm going to convert my pro tle/rl ii to a commander recoil spring guide rod.


I did some time back. Much better now. No tool needed.


Do you have a big gaping hole in the front where the full length guide rod was before?


Umm... Define "big gaping". The hole is the size of the reverse plug hole obviously. I'm a suburban commando so it does not bother me. Same concept as the Wilson:
2/1/2011 3:12:38 AM EDT
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The bushingless barrel does not bother me as much as the tool requirement to take down the slide.

Quoted:
I think I'm going to convert my pro tle/rl ii to a commander recoil spring guide rod.


I did some time back. Much better now. No tool needed.


Do you have a big gaping hole in the front where the full length guide rod was before?


Umm... Define "big gaping". The hole is the size of the reverse plug hole obviously. I'm a suburban commando so it does not bother me. Same concept as the Wilson:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/wilson/wilson_cqb_compact.jpg


fair enough.  thanks!
2/1/2011 1:42:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Dude I am so confused...how do you do that?
2/1/2011 8:58:02 PM EDT
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Dude I am so confused...how do you do that?


THIS replaced my FLGR. Done:


2/1/2011 10:19:09 PM EDT
[#10]
Ok so what holds the spring on the muzzle end??
2/2/2011 5:49:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Hard to see, but there is a "reverse" plug that captures the spring in the slide.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=883142&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Gunsmithing%20-%20Gun%20Parts%201911%20(Not%20Grips%2C%20Magazines)-_-PriceCompListing-_-883142
2/2/2011 10:28:19 PM EDT
[#12]
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Ok so what holds the spring on the muzzle end??

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Hard to see, but there is a "reverse" plug that captures the spring in the slide.


It's the stock reverse plug all Kimber Pro models come with. The only change is the FLGR to the Commander length rod.



2/3/2011 10:01:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Interesting...
So to get the FLGR out of the plug what do you do? Just compress the spring a little more, take the little tool pin out, and watch the plug/FLGR/spring fly apart? lol
2/3/2011 10:50:28 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Interesting...
So to get the FLGR out of the plug what do you do? Just compress the spring a little more, take the little tool pin out, and watch the plug/FLGR/spring fly apart? lol


Yes. But done inside a plastic shopping bag would be ideal to keeping parts out of orbit.
2/3/2011 10:53:46 AM EDT
[#15]
Hahaha good call...I might look into that swap.
2/4/2011 8:59:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
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Interesting...
So to get the FLGR out of the plug what do you do? Just compress the spring a little more, take the little tool pin out, and watch the plug/FLGR/spring fly apart? lol


Yes. But done inside a plastic shopping bag would be ideal to keeping parts out of orbit.


This is good advice. But, I did not follow it and had zero issues. My steps:
1) Lock slide
2) Insert paperclip
3) Remove slide
4) Stand rod on back end (remove any oil to make less slippery)
5) Place bag to cover assembly (optional)
6) Press down on plug
7) Remove paperclip
8) Slowly remove plug
2/5/2011 4:02:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Does anyone make a reverse plug that is not open ended??
2/6/2011 10:47:59 AM EDT
[#18]
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Does anyone make a reverse plug that is not open ended??


EGW quoted my $100 to make one.

I've yet to locate one to try. They are made, but online I can't try them first.
2/7/2011 10:04:05 AM EDT
[#19]
A good way to take recoil spring assembly apart is to put it back in the slide without the barrel so you can push on it easily to get the takedown pin out. Then you can just ease the guide rod out instead of letting everything fly apart. It's a hell of a lot easier than the other methods mentioned and there's less chance of losing stuff or hurting yourself.
2/7/2011 3:26:22 PM EDT
[#20]
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It's the stock reverse plug all Kimber Pro models come with. The only change is the FLGR to the Commander length rod.

Good info here Contact'...I have a PC HD II that I have trouble with, some say getting rid of the rod is better, I don't know...first 1911 "used"...have Fail to feed...slide does not lock back on last round on first range trial.. ..I have a new recoil spring coming from Wolff hoping that will go away....now what about this commander size rod....where did you get that to replace the stock FLGR? (use same stock spring?)
Thx..
2/7/2011 5:05:26 PM EDT
[#21]
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..I have a new recoil spring coming from Wolff hoping that will go away....now what about this commander size rod....where did you get that to replace the stock FLGR? (use same stock spring?)
Thx..


Linked above. Same spring.