Posted: 10/26/2006 3:29:16 PM EDT
| I am thinking about buying a P2000 . I have been carrying a Sig 229 and some times a Sig 239 I feel very comfortable with the Sigs . How does the HK P2000 compare with safety issues . Does anyone have an opinion about the LEM or the decocking model . I am used to a decocker and a DA/SA action . I have heard that a lot of people like the lem trigger . Thanks for any info that you can give me . I don't know of anyone that has one that I can ask . |
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As with any firearm the primary safety is the shooter. The LEM does not offer any manual safety but like the Glock and other DAO trigger systems, the long first shot pull negates the need for a safety for any shooter that even tries to remotely familiarize himself or herself with the pistol. If one likes DAO triggers I must admit that I like the LEM the best of the types I have tried. But still, I do not care for DAO triggers of any type. I much prefer the V1 SA/DA safe/decock offered on the USP/C but if I had to stick with the P2000 as my carry weapon, I think I would opt for the V3, SA/DA decock only. My P2K and SK are both V2 LEMs converted to V1 but they are for the collection primarily and I have only shot them a very little bit. The LEM is nice and it does not take a great deal of practice to shoot it well, but I still find I like the V1 on the USPC .45 better. I guess it boils down to I like the options the V1 gives me. It is totally safe to carry cocked and locked, hammer down safety off, hammer down safety on, and for just a few bucks I can change it to any one of the 10 variants offered (except V8; not offered in the US but the trigger is the same as the V7). Since you are use to a SA/DA decock you may find the V3 to be more familiar. It will give you roughly a 5 pound SA trigger pull and a 13 pound DA pull. There is no option to carry it cocked and locked though so you must take your first shot DA unless you are going to shoot immediately after loading or thumb back the hammer first. |
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I have a P2000 with the V2 LEM trigger that I have converted to the lighter pull V1 trigger using Big Bore's excellent spring replacement guide. I also have a USPc .45 V1 (DA/SA), as well as a Glock 19 with a lighter 3.5# spring. Of the three, I prefer the P2000. Some people seem to hate the LEM trigger. I also have an AR15 with the Geissele 2-stage trigger, and the LEM is very similar to the 2-stage AR trigger, with takeup and a bump before firing. At 4.5#, the LEM is very manageable and allows excellent accuracy. One of my favorite features about the LEM is the quick trigger reset. Because you only have to let the trigger out about 1/8" to reset it, you can put a lot of ammo downrange very quickly, just what you want in a defensive situation. If I wanted a decocker instead of the LEM trigger, I would probably go with a USPc V1 (the 9mm version is the one used by Jack Bauer on 24!). The USPc features the DA/SA, as well as a manual safety and decocker. So, you can carry cocked and locked, or hammer down and one in the pipe. The USPc is available in a variety of calibers, including 9mm, .40 and .45. Good luck mate. |
You know much more about the P2K than I do BB, and mine is my primary carry. The lack of the manual safety does bug me a bit, but it is great shooter and as comfortable as any handgun I have owned or even handled. The interchangeable grip pieces are nice, and I find it makes for a custom fit. Overall, I would rate it high as a shooter and for feel, but the LEM is for a narrow group of buyers. Frankly, if I had it to do over, I would have gone with a USP model. |
Great advice. Also, if u cannot stand the Bobbed Hammer, you can get P2000V3. Those have spurred hammer :-) |