Posted: 7/15/2005 11:43:12 AM EDT
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Hello, all!! I am in the market for a good .40 for carry mostly and plinking. I am looking at the H&K P2000SK. What I am particularly concerned about the trigger pull. HK literature lists it as a "7.5-8.5 crisp pull". How does it feel compared to other guns? I'd like to compare it to other guns I have shot- Beretta 92FS- Somewhat heavy SA, long and heavy DA HK USP 9mm-squishy SA, long heavy DA Glock-long, heavy, squishy (this is why I'm not getting a Glock, I like them otherwise) How do the ergonomics of the SK version feel? (I'm 50mi from the nearest HK dealer) Also, I am left handed, so that's why the ambi controls are important. Thanks for your help |
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Frankly I hate the way the SK feels. Too damned short in the grip. While it makes the pistol much more concealable the price for that small amount of concealability is too much. I'd much rather stick with the larger and higher capacity P2K or my favorite, the Compact .45. The standard 8 pound pull is long, but not that heavy. Now, if you put in the lighter firing pin block spring and lighter trigger return spring, which will cost you all of $9, you will have the DAO pull down to 5 pounds or so. That makes the pull much better, actually putting the DAO pull into the range of the SA pull on the Compact. And since you are not changing out the hammer spring, reliability is still 100%. The pull will still be long on the first shot with a much shorter reset for following shots, but it is very light. While I have no love for DAO pulls, I must admit that I do not find the lightened DAO pull on my P2K all that bad. |
One issue that I happen to believe does not see enough thought is the fact that a handgun can, in fact, be TOO small...or in this case, too short in the grip frame...to be really useful. I have seen this most often with the baby Glocks. Yes, you CAN, indeed, shoot these type of handguns well...deliberately...but if you suddenly are required to "grab and go" from concealment, maybe while moving laterally, etc. what happens is that you often end up not indexing on the target correctly. I much prefer either the standard P2000 or...more to my personal liking...the G23...or at the very least, add a mag extension to the G27 / P2000SK to get things back into perspective. Since the G23 and P2000 both have longer barrels and more capacity, and allow you a "handful of gun" when you need it, I do not use either of the shorter, smaller guns. JMO
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Thanks for your input, guys. I guess I just need to get one of them in my hands and see if it really is too small. Big Bore, how is the recoil of the 45 Compact? I like the power of the 45, but in a gun that small, how controllable is the recoil? Does the HK recoil system make a difference? I'll be able to get them in my hands, but I'm no where near a range that rents guns, so I won't be able to test fire any of them. Thanks again for your help. |
Recoil is nothing to worry about on a compact in .45acp unless you have arthritis or something? Controlability is subjective, what may be mild for you is a lot for me & vice versa. Yes, the H&K shok buff system does make a difference, IMO. They're wonderful guns & amazingly accurate for their size barrels. I'll never part with mine. My .o2 |
| Ditto what Bob said. I have shot a ton fo .45s, large and small, and the USP and USPC line are the smoothest recoiling .45s I have ever shot. The HK engineers really did their homework and earnd their pay with the recoil reducing system used in the USP and USPC line. |
+1 My dad is not a fan of any of my .45's except for my USP Tactical. Apparantly the recoil is tame enough where he can enjoy shooting it. He hates my 1911... He will shoot it every now and then, but really just never shot it well. Shoots my TAC almost as good as he shoots his beloved beretta 92fs. |
did you get a 9mm or .40 ? |
If he hit all those X's, he didn't use a .40cal! 
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